[Ads-l] Heard: "I've had dinner...

[Dan Goncharoff]

I've even heard the mistake on Downton Abbey.

What is to be done?
On Aug 25, 2015 8:07 AM, "Wilson Gray" <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
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> > the three options in such cases: "vernacular _me and X_", =
> > "standard _X and me_", and "polite _X and I_", the last o which some =
> > would call hypercorrect rather than merely polite.
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> People have been having a problem with this, in my experience, since
> teachers got serious about "proper English," back in 1942, starting with an
> attempt to end the use of "me and you/him/her/them/me and [Name] and them"
> in the Subjective case. In high school, there was *heavy* emphasis on the
> use of "proper English" in *writing.* It certainly worked for me. I don't
> under-correct or over-correct, except for effect. Unless I've simply
> fxcked, of course.
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> OTOH, the writers for today's alumni news and for today's school paper are
> just as subject to write "with he and I" as any random troll on Facebook.
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