[Ads-l] An Ode to Whom (Gone Hence, but Whither?)

Herb Stahlke hfwstahlke at GMAIL.COM
Tue Feb 10 02:31:11 UTC 2015


But seldom anymore.

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Paul A Johnston, Jr. <
paul.johnston at wmich.edu> wrote:

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> We have "him" too, and the "them" of "in them days".  Both are from OE
> datives.  And I'm not even counting archaisms like "whilom" which was a
> dative used adverbially.
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> Paul Johnston
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> > At 2/9/2015 08:40 AM, guy1656 at centurylink.net wrote:
> > >Isn't "whom" and it's derived words all we have left of the dative
> > >in
> > >English?
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> > >Related question: Do 'hence, hither, whence, and whither' still mark
> > >accusative (if they ever did?)
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> > Hence, hither, whence, and whither,
> > Put me all in a dither.
> > And as for the use of whom,
> > It seems to have left the room.
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> > Philolingua.
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