[Ads-l] "WWII Jets Fly Over Washington"

[David Barnhart]

When does stupidity trump.  Somebody ought to take these people when they
are off-stage and slap them upside the head--or maybe just teach them a
little history.  [As a footnote, my father-in-law as a young (prop-)fighter
pilot in the 8th Air Force did shoot down a Messerschmitt jet (Me262), which
was a jet, just before he was downed by German flak.  He survived thanks to
Czech resistance for 2 weeks behind enemy lines.]

DKB

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Jonathan Lighter
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I noticed something very similar a while back:


JL to ADS Dec. 6, 2007:

During the observation of the 60th anniversary of the [1940-41] Battle of
Britain, Fox News reported that a flight of "World War II fighter jets" was
being featured. "Here come the fighter jets!" exclaimed Fox correspondent
A.C. as a handful of piston-engined Spitfires escorted a four-engined
Lancaster bomber across the sky.  I chuckled to myself.

Just now, however, Fox correspondent M. K. has referred twice to the
resumption of Russian bomber flights right up to the borders of the U.S.
and Britain as involving "fighter jets."

So in popular usage, "fighter jet" seems to be shifting its meaning to
"armed combat aircraft of any kind."  This shift results from ignorance, but
it is a semantic shift nonetheless.


JL


On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Dave Wilton <dave at wilton.net> wrote:

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> An article from CNN appeared in my Facebook field with the title 
> "World = War II jets fly over Washington monuments."=20
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> The article is at =
> http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/08/politics/world-war-ii-flyover-washington
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> tional-mall/
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> The headline on the webpage has "planes" instead of "jets," but the = 
> "Title" field in the html code has "jets," hence it appears that way 
> on = Facebook and other other feeds.
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> All the planes pictured are propeller driven.
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> Messed with my mind too when I first heard it.
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> Was it current in E. St. L. ca1950?   No cites till the following =
> decade.
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> JL
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> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:46 AM, Benjamin Barrett =
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> > > If the issue is about "to fuck over,"
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> >
> > When I was in the Army back in 1960, in a unit that was literally 
> > *at
> > least* 99.44% white, when I asked rhetorically, "Have you guys heard 
> > =
> how
> > Sgt.Rea fucked over Luplow?" my use of "fuck over" - a very common 
> > BE expression - totally messed with the minds of my white 
> > barracks-mates. =
> I
> > had to try to explain to them what it meant. Naturally, since it's =
> slang,
> > the phrase has a wider variety of meanings than simply "to cheat or 
> > =
> treat
> > unfairly."
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> > Now, 55 years later, the phrase appears to have "gone mainstream," 
> > to =
> coin
> > a pswaydo-euphemism.
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> > --
> > -Wilson
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> > All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint 
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> > come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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