[Ads-l] "We ARE x !"

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Thu Oct 22 23:33:43 UTC 2015


Some may recall Monty Python's question, "Why is American beer like making
love in a canoe?"

JL

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com> wrote:

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> So that makes you a Ballantine man?
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> Hipster beer alert: Ballantine is coming back
> http://money.cnn.com/2014/08/14/news/ballantine-pabst/
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> BTW, Ballantine is now promoting a Burton Ale...
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> http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/pabst-revives-legendary-christmas-brew-ballantine-burton-ale.326515/
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> DanG
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> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
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> > The hipsters I know (with zip codes in Williamsburg and the Mission) are
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> > into craft beer, predictable as that may be, and not at all into PBR.  =
> > But then so are their parents (at least this one); "flavorless", "tastes
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> > like ice cold water", and "provides zero enjoyment" sound about right.  =
> > Besides, if India Pale Ale weren't expressly designed for linguists it =
> > wouldn't be called IPA.
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> > LH
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> > > On Oct 22, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at GMAIL.COM> =
> > wrote:
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> > > Unless you're a hipster:
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> > > Opinion: How did Pabst Blue Ribbon become a hipster favorite?
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> > > But then
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> > > Is PBR still cool? America's hipster beer is slowing down
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> > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Laurence Horn =
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> > >>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 3:39 PM, W Brewer <brewerwa at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > >>> =3D20
> > >>> Wir sind Pabst!
> > >>> When Joseph Aloisius Ratzinger became Pope Benedict XVI, colleague
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> > >> Reinhard
> > >>> Duessel told me of that chant from the Heimat. Strikes me as =
> > stronger =3D
> > >> than
> > >>> <Habemus Papam> 'we have a pope': <Wir sind Pabst> lit. 'we are =
> > Pope', =3D
> > >> as
> > >>> if to say, 'we not only HAVE a pope, he's one of US!'  (Different =
> > from
> > >>> <*Popes R Us>, which might have been an old Italian slogan.)
> > >>>    I told Reinhard that <Wir sind Pabst> sounded more like a beer
> > >>> commercial. He didn't get it.
> > >>> =3D20
> > >> Or a cheer at Camp Randall, the rocking home field of Wisconsin =
> > Badgers =3D
> > >> football.  For some reason I couldn't fathom while I was living in =3D
> > >> Madison, PBR was the brew of choice there.  That was over 30 years =
> > ago, =3D
> > >> though--maybe the chant now is "Wir sind nicht mehr Pabst": =3D20
> > >> cf. =3D
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