[Ads-l] Three usage questions

[Jonathan Lighter]

What the hell is a "rope hat," classic or otherwise?

JL

On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
wrote:

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> I guess they can't be cavers or spelunkers or speleologist because =
> that's not serious enough, or maybe they just allude to exploring the =
> caves themselves (geologically) rather than the important old stuff =
> they're hiding (archeologically).  But why couldn't they be, for =
> example, "terranauts"?=20
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> LH
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> > On Sep 13, 2015, at 8:10 AM, Stephen Goranson <goranson at DUKE.EDU> =
> wrote:
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> > 1) The same group leader reportedly used it to describe an earlier =
> find.
> > "[Prof. Lee] Berger, leader of National Geographic's Rising Star =
> Expedition, tapped six women he has called "underground astronauts" to =
> recover remains from a cavern 30 meters underground at the Cradle of =
> Humankind, a World Heritage Site in northeastern South Africa. The =
> cradle is the site of some of the oldest hominin (human relatives closer =
> on the family tree than gorillas or chimpanzees) discoveries ever, =
> reaching back more than 3 million years."
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> > This, from a U. of Wisconsin-Madison news release, Dec. 6 2013, via =
> Targeted News Service via ProQuest Central.
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> > Stephen Goranson
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> > Subject: [ADS-L] Three usage questions
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> > Love this list-serve and have three questions:
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> > 1) A story in Friday's NTY on the "Homo Naledi" discovery
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> > )
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> > states that six "slender" women were chosen as the team to slither =
> into the
> > cave where the bones were found, and that the team members were  =
> referred
> > to as "underground astronauts."
> > Does anybody know if this is a new usage?
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> > 2) A Sept. 9 NYT story on Donald Trump caps  referred to what I always
> > thought of "ball caps," "gimme caps" or trucker caps as "classic rope =
> hats."
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> www.nytimes.com/2015/09/13/fashion/trumps-campaign-hat-becomes-an-ironic-s=
> ummer-accessory.html?/_r=3D0i
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> > Where can I find an expanded explanation of the names for various =
> versions
> > of the billed cap?
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> > 3) The same NYT story ends with the conjecture that:
> >  This season=92s Trump trucker hat will soon go the way of =91on =
> fleek.=92 =94
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> > What is "on fleek" and where did it come from (and where, or which =
> way, did
> > it "go"?)
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> > Thanks in advance for any answers,
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> > Susan Yerkes
> > San Antonio, TX
> > (Not a member of ADS, but an enthusiastic fan of your discussions)
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