[Ads-l] Three usage questions

[Susan G Yerkes]

My question exactly... that's what thee NYT called it.

On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
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> What the hell is a "rope hat," classic or otherwise?
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> JL
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> On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
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> > I guess they can't be cavers or spelunkers or speleologist because =
> > that's not serious enough, or maybe they just allude to exploring the =
> > caves themselves (geologically) rather than the important old stuff =
> > they're hiding (archeologically).  But why couldn't they be, for =
> > example, "terranauts"?=20
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> > LH
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> > > On Sep 13, 2015, at 8:10 AM, Stephen Goranson <goranson at DUKE.EDU> =
> > wrote:
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> > > 1) The same group leader reportedly used it to describe an earlier =
> > find.
> > > "[Prof. Lee] Berger, leader of National Geographic's Rising Star =
> > Expedition, tapped six women he has called "underground astronauts" to =
> > recover remains from a cavern 30 meters underground at the Cradle of =
> > Humankind, a World Heritage Site in northeastern South Africa. The =
> > cradle is the site of some of the oldest hominin (human relatives closer
> =
> > on the family tree than gorillas or chimpanzees) discoveries ever, =
> > reaching back more than 3 million years."
> > >=20
> > > This, from a U. of Wisconsin-Madison news release, Dec. 6 2013, via =
> > Targeted News Service via ProQuest Central.
> > >=20
> > > Stephen Goranson
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> > > From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf of =
> > Susan G Yerkes <susanyerkes at UTEXAS.EDU>
> > > Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 12:33 PM
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> > > Subject: [ADS-L] Three usage questions
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> > > Love this list-serve and have three questions:
> > >=20
> > > 1) A story in Friday's NTY on the "Homo Naledi" discovery
> > >=20
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> > > =
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> > > )
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> > > states that six "slender" women were chosen as the team to slither =
> > into the
> > > cave where the bones were found, and that the team members were  =
> > referred
> > > to as "underground astronauts."
> > > Does anybody know if this is a new usage?
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > 2) A Sept. 9 NYT story on Donald Trump caps  referred to what I always
> > > thought of "ball caps," "gimme caps" or trucker caps as "classic rope =
> > hats."
> > >=20
> > > /
> > > =
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> www.nytimes.com/2015/09/13/fashion/trumps-campaign-hat-becomes-an-ironic-s=
> > ummer-accessory.html?/_r=3D0i
> > >=20
> > > Where can I find an expanded explanation of the names for various =
> > versions
> > > of the billed cap?
> > >=20
> > > 3) The same NYT story ends with the conjecture that:
> > >  This season=92s Trump trucker hat will soon go the way of =91on =
> > fleek.=92 =94
> > >=20
> > > What is "on fleek" and where did it come from (and where, or which =
> > way, did
> > > it "go"?)
> > >=20
> > > Thanks in advance for any answers,
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> > > Susan Yerkes
> > > San Antonio, TX
> > > (Not a member of ADS, but an enthusiastic fan of your discussions)
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