[Ads-l] when = 'if'
Laurence Horn
laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Tue Sep 29 18:48:38 UTC 2015
Well, my comments still apply. I can imagine a "when" there for "if", just in case the "you" isn't really "you". Googling "When you're a cat" does pull up a few similar contexts (though not the commercial in question), e.g.
21 Words That Mean Something Different When You're A Cat. [for example, "laptop" = 'bed']
How to ride a horse when you're a cat
When you're a cat, everything has the potential to scare the crap out of you.
When you're a cat, a book makes a great pillow.
not to mention various take-offs on the West Side Story patter song ("When you're a cat, you're a cat all the way...")
Then there's "when you're a woman":
Going bald sucks, but it sucks more when you're a woman
How to Survive the Finance World When You're a Woman.
Going On Holiday Is Hard When You're A Woman
When you're a woman you have to prove, more than if you're a man, that...
[note the interchangeability here of "when" and "if"]
LH
> On Sep 29, 2015, at 2:16 PM, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>>
>> OED when, def. 8a ends by saying "sometimes nearly = 'if.'"
>>
>> Cites go back to ca1175.
>>
>> There is, however what I take to be a recent usage that goes further and
>> essentially equals "if."
>>
>> Current TV commercial:
>>
>> "When you're a cat, you ignore people. It's what you do."
>>
>> I.e., you ignore people "if" you're a cat. "When" implies there are times
>> when you're not.
>>
>> Which is never, if you're a cat.
>
> I think you might have misheard that, Jon. Sounds like "if" to me:
>
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> It's one of a series of Geico commercials involving versions of the
> line, "If you're X, you Y. It's what you do."
>
> --bgz
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