[Ads-l] "done VERB-ed" < "_have_ done VERB-ed"

[Randy Alexander]

Ha! He can say "I have done done" is redundant, but then goes on to say
"common vulgarism".

Kids those days....

On Sat, Apr 30, 2016, 10:45 Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:

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> For some time. I've been intending to comment on my memory - or, perhaps,
> merely my tuition - that strings like, e.g.:
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> "I done told you"
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> are derived from strings like
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> "_I've_ done told you" < "I _have_ done told you"
>
> Unfortunately, there's no need to argue this point, for GoogleB is
> asshole-deep in evidence that such is the case, rendering such an
> exposition otiose.
>
> My Torn Heart
> https://books.google.com/books?isbn=3D1426976690
> Carla Lamb Marshall - 2011 - =E2=80=8EPreview
> =E2=80=9CBook, I _have done told_ you that you lost the privilege to call
> m=
> e Brit
> when you tried to hurt my family. You are not allowed to call me that ever
> again. You will either call me Mrs. Water or Mrs. Niklas Water.=E2=80=9D
>
> A Grammar of the English Language: With Exercises in ... - Page 235
> https://books.google.com/books?id=3Db64AAAAAYAAJ
> Edward Archibald Allen, =E2=80=8EWilliam John Hawkins - 1905 -
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> d
> "The past participle of tell is not done told, as ' I _have done told_
> him,' and one done is enough in ' I have done it.' "
>
> Perhaps of interest is only this.
>
> Some Peculiarities of Speech in Mississippi - Page 27
> https://books.google.com/books?id=3DwKAVAAAAYAAJ
> Hubert Anthony Shands [Georgetown, Texas] - 1893 - =E2=80=8ERead
> *Done *... This word is very often interposed between the auxiliary _have_
> and the past participle, to give additional completeness to the sense; as,
> "I have done lost," which seems to mean more than "I have lost." This
> distinction is not always observed; _done lost_ is very frequently used
> when we should expect simple _lost_, and _vice versa_. Bartlett['s
> "Dictionary of Americanisms"] says that this use of _done_ is a very common
> vulgarism throughout the South.
> --=20
> -Wilson
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> All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint to
> come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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