[Ads-l] Dental stops in English

[Jonathan Lighter]

{D} and {t} for {th} are standard features of Newfoundland English.
They are unmistakably dental, at least to me.

JL

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Michael Newman
<Michael.Newman at qc.cuny.edu> wrote:
> It’s in my book on NYCE (http://www.degruyter.com/view/product/185360)  Basically all ethnic Whites (not sure about Irish though) Hispanics and some Asians (Listen to John Liu former comptroller).  Origins can be in Yiddish, Italian, and Spanish substrate. It includes all alveolar obstruents potentially.
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> On Aug 8, 2016, at 8:00 PM, Paul A Johnston, Jr <paul.johnston at WMICH.EDU<mailto:paul.johnston at wmich.edu>> wrote:
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> I think of it as New York City, not necessarily Jewish, though it can be.  I have them variably for /t d/ and theta, eth in very casual speech.  I wonder if Irish- or Italian-Americans favor these for /t d/.
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> I have an echo of some discussion, or even a publication, which found
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> some dialects of American English have dental rather than alveolar
> stops.
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> Impressionistically it seems to me stereotype American Jewish (not
> Yiddish-=
> accented, mind you) English has dental t's and d's. Does anyone know
> of res=
> earch confirming this?
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