[Ads-l] "slave"

[Flourish Klink]

Separate from the historical perspective, I would be shocked if the
enslaved people in question considered themselves Americans. (If someone
kidnapped me, transported me overseas to China and set me to work in a
factory, I certainly wouldn't consider myself Chinese!)

F

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 11:02 AM Joel Berson <berson at att.net> wrote:

> Sali,
>
> Do you consider 1814, when "The Star-Spangled Banner" was written, as
> being during the colonial period of the US?  A very Anglo-philic stance,
> just what the British were still believing then?  :-)  I would say there
> were "enslaved African-Americans" in 1814.
>
> Joel
>
>
>       From: Salikoko S. Mufwene <s-mufwene at UCHICAGO.EDU>
>  To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>  Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:51 AM
>  Subject: Re: [ADS-L] "slave"
>
> Just a minor correction, JL. From a historical perspective, there were
> enslaved Africans, not enslaved African Americans during the colonial
> history of the US or of the 13 English colonies. During that time the
> class of Americans was very restricted, even some Europeans did not
> count as Americans.
>
> Sali.
>
> On 8/31/2016 7:06 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> > Former tennis star James Blake has explained to CNN that "The
> Star-Spangled
> > Banner" is "a song that advocates the killing of slaves."
> >
> > The "hireling and slave" in the song, of course, are not enslaved
> > African-Americans but redcoats, Hessian mercenaries, and cringing Tories.
> >
> > Proof? Read the lyrics.
> >
> > Of course, as D----d T---p has demonstrated, words don't mean much
> anymore.
> >
> >
> > JL
> >
>
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