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Mon Dec 12 00:42:47 EST 2016
See also Green's Dictionary of Slang, which dates the noun to 1943 and the
adjective to 1966. (The adverb is folded into the adj. sense.)
1. lies, nonsense, rubbish; also as excl. [play on _bullshit_ n. (1)/_crap_
1943 H. MacDiarmid _Lucky Poet_ 100: Batshit ! ' That is exactly what the
judgement of almost every writer of signed reviews in Great Britain amounts
to. Just that !
[_batshit_ n. (2) + _bats_ adj.]
insane, crazy, also as adv.; thus _go batshit_ v., to become insane, to act
crazily; _drive batshit_ v., to drive mad.
1966 R. Stone _Hall of Mirrors_ (1987) 202: You’re batshit.
On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 9:03 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> I have also encountered "bullshit" in the meaning of "crazy," but only
> since the 1970s.
> The 1950 "bat shit" strikes me as unidiomatic and very odd.
> At any rate, see HDAS I.
> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at gmail.com>
> > If I understand this right, the sense that is an alternative for bullshit
> > is:
> > • A worthless or contemptible thing; rubbish, nonsense. Cf.
> > bullshit n. (1950 M. Shedd Return to Beach ii. 156: "I felt the minute
> > of that bat shit of a Judas clock stand up to me.”)
> > For me, “bullshit” does not work in this sentence. Cf.
> > https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bullshit <https://en.wiktionary.org/
> > wiki/bullshit>. Perhaps the meaning of bullshit has changed.
> > BB
> > > On 11 Dec 2016, at 17:02, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
> > >
> > > At http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/38354/where-did-
> > the-phrase-batsht-crazy-come-from we read that while histoplasmosis may
> > indeed be implicated, the first occurrences of “batshit” were as variants
> > of “bullshit”. Clearly, the meaning has shifted over the decades. Given
> > the standardly assumed culpability cat poop in the spread of
> > *toxo*plasmosis (a danger I still somewhat suspect of having been
> > exaggerated if not wholly invented to give pregnant women an excuse to
> > their partners clean the litter box full time for the duration of
> > gestation), I wondered whether “catshit crazy” also occurred, and it
> > does—99 actual g-hits. Still pales next to batshit and histoplasmosis,
> > it’s not *that* shabby…
> > >
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