[Ads-l] Earliest Use of "Live Long and Prosper"

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Wed Feb 17 01:13:37 UTC 2016


Sounds right.  A local language to the Berkeley area, just requiring a bit of time travel.  I should have noted that Klingon, unlike Vulcan, would be among the *least* likely languages to have an expression corresponding to "Live long and prosper", unless it was one that only occurred in the scope of negation.  

LH

> On Feb 16, 2016, at 7:44 PM, Geoffrey Steven Nathan <geoffnathan at WAYNE.EDU> wrote:
> 
> According to Okrand's Wikipedia entry, he was working on Mutsun, a dialect of Ohlone (a.k.a. Southern Costanoan).
> 
> For other reasons I had occasion to look this up yesterday. Apparently it's the most widely spoken artificial language, according to an article someone sent me yesterday.
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>> On Feb 16, 2016, at 5:47 PM, W Brewer <brewerwa at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> =20
>> I recall from one my Vedic classes, there is an ancient Sanskrit =
> expression
>> with an identical sentiment. If there's any interest, I can try to dig 
>> =
> it
>> up. (BYW, one of my teachers was consulted during the birth of =
> Klingon. He
>> gave a talk about his contribution, but none of it ended up in the =
> first
>> film. Skt just wasn't guttural enough.)
>> =20
> The inventor...er, discoverer of Klingon, Marc Okrand, was a student of = mine at UC Berkeley in 1970 and would likely (as a linguistics major) = have also taken Sanskrit there during that time.  The major influence on = Klingon, though, was a native Californian language, I believe extinct or = nearly so, that he was working on with Mary Haas using materials at the = Smithsonian.  I have nothing to contribute on "Live long and prosper" = but I can ask our local (emeritus) Sanskritist at Yale.
> 
> LH
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