[Ads-l] "old" proverb?

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Wed Feb 24 15:05:56 UTC 2016


Google Books traces it 'way back to 2005 - as allegedly "African."

An "old Bulgarian proverb," e.g., wouldn't have the same punch.

JL

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
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> As I suspected....
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> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Charles C Doyle <cdoyle at uga.edu> wrote:
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> > We could say it's a proverb, probably an Anglo-American proverb of the
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> > ent century or so;  not "old."  The "African" aspect is problematical as
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> > ll.  In the first place, "African" covers a multitude of languages,
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> > es, and cultures.  In the second place, there's a tendency to "attribute"
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> > roverbs, new or old, often to persons or places renowned for their
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> > t wisdom--perhaps in an effort to enhance the perceived insightfulness or
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> > uthority of the saying.  We may compare the famous "It takes a village to
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> > aise a child":  It too is often called an African proverb, but no African
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> > ource or identity has been discovered.
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> > --Charlie
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> > Se. Cory Booker cites "the old African proverb,
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> > 'If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together.'"
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> > Could be legit, but is it?
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