[Ads-l] Pre-1988 "dead pool"?

Robin Hamilton robin.hamilton3 at VIRGINMEDIA.COM
Sat Jan 16 17:17:37 UTC 2016

Sounds somewhat like that older pool, the tontine.  An early form of 
life-insurance, from one angle, rather than death-insurance.

Robin Hamilton


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Wikipedia notes "death pool" as a variant. A Google Books search for
"death pool" brings up this 1916 attestation:

      High Speed - Page 287

Clinton Holland Stagg
- 1916 - ‎Read
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Death Pool/, and with them had gone the fool spectators who had been in
the way; the men who would kill the game as they had killed the drivers
who had swerved to save them. Mighty good thing they didn't get a share
of the /Death Pool/ ...

On 1/16/2016 12:01 PM, Neal Whitman wrote:
> The most recent spate of celebrity deaths got me thinking about "dead
> pools," as written about, for example, in this article:
> “You Bet Their Life” by Evan Forster New York Magazine Sep 22, 1997, 
> p.20
> https://books.google.com/books?id=2ugCAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA20&dq=%22dead%20pool%22&pg=PA20#v=onepage&q=%22dead%20pool%22&f=false
> The earliest attestations of "dead pool" in Google Books, ProQuest,
> and NewsBank are all from 1988, referring to Clint Eastwood's final
> Dirty Harry movie "The Dead Pool," screenplay by Buddy Van Horn. I'm
> wondering if van Horn coined the phrase, or heard it and used it. (The
> Marvel character Deadpool, soon to have his own movie, was created in
> 1991.) Antedatings are welcome!
> Neal

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