[Ads-l] Jibe/jive

Ann Burlingham ann at BURLINGHAMBOOKS.COM
Sat Jul 23 22:06:31 UTC 2016


Interesting. I'll have to listen again - the clip I originally saw only had it once, and it hit my ears as "jive" - or I wouldn't have been startled. But I could have heard wrong.

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> On Jul 23, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> The official White House transcript has "jibe" both times:
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> https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/07/22/remarks-president-obama-and-president-pena-nieto-mexico-joint-press
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> Video here:
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z1eDLgnMhA
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> Relevant bits are at about 19:35 and 20:15 -- both sound like "jibe" to me.
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>> On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Christopher Philippo <toff at mac.com> wrote:
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>> On Jul 23, 2016, at 01:32 AM, Ann Burlingham <ann at BURLINGHAMBOOKS.COM>
>> wrote:
>> when i hear the president use "jive" for "jibe", i figure language change
>> has happened and i should move on.
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>> oh, wait - apparently he used *both*, as reported by CBS:
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>> http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-donald-trumps-remarks-violence-immigration-dont-jibe-with-facts/
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>> Given that to jive is to not jibe with the facts, it shouldn't be
>> surprising if some people mix them up - but one would actually have to hear
>> what he said to be sure that it wasn't the mistake of the reporter.  The
>> above didn't have audio of Obama.
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