[Ads-l] Now in your hands, the the key to the "singularity"...

Fri Jun 3 04:03:19 UTC 2016

And of course Korea, China, Japan, Viet Nam, etc., are each widely known for 
their racial heterogeneity and multicultural inclusion.
Dave Hause
-----Original Message----- 
From: Jonathan Lighter
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 7:44 PM
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Subject: Re: Now in your hands, the the key to the "singularity"...

I can't believe we're having this discussion.

For my own part, mea culpa.

(A Roman-chauvinist phrase implying that Latin is better than English.)

JL

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 8:14 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> 
wrote:
>> On Jun 2, 2016, at 8:00 PM, Charles C Doyle <cdoyle at UGA.EDU> wrote:
>>
>> But then, "Asian" is also a European construct--and pretty lumpish!
>>
>> --Charlie
>>
>
> I don't think lumpishness is the issue; "Europe" is pretty lumpy too, and 
> named for young lady who had an affair with a bull, mutatis mutandis, and 
> apparently we're on board (as it were) with that.  And America (or, if you 
> prefer, the Americas) is lumpy and named for some Italian guy but nobody 
> much complains.  I think it's the relational/perspectival issue in 
> "Oriental" that rankles the ranklees.
>
> At least one account of "Asia" is that the Greeks (e.g. Herodotus) picked 
> it up from 'Akkadian _asu_ "to go out, to rise," in reference to the sun, 
> thus "the land of the sunrise"', so very much like "Orient", but then 
> again if this is right at least its origin is Asian, albeit Southwest 
> Asian.
>
> LH
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>> The buzz in college was that "Oriental" is Occident-centric, i.e.,
>> racist.  Why? Because East Asian cultures differ considerably and
>> cannot be lumped together.
>>
>> Also, "the Orient" is an exotic Euro-American construct.
>>
>> JL
>>
>> .
>>
>> JL
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Cohen, Gerald Leonard <gcohen at mst.edu> 
>> wrote:
>>> Hmmm. What's this all about?  I've been a long-time member of this list
>>> and don't remember any racist messages being sent.  Racist terms may
>>> occasionally appear as part of a discussion on language, but I don't 
>>> remember
>>> them every appearing with a racist intent (e.g., anti-black, 
>>> anti-Oriental).
>>>
>>> Gerald Cohen
>>>
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>>> why choose to be racist when you can choose to be a decent human being?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 2, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Jesse Sheidlower <jester at PANIX.COM> wrote:
>>>> =20
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 01, 2016 at 11:57:35PM -0700, Xia Hwang wrote:
>>>>> hi jesse,=20
>>>>> how about booting ppl for offensive, racist ass posts?
>>>> =20
>>>> I have done this on a very few occasions, but only in cases that were 
>>>> real=
>>> ly extreme and had no conceivable relation to language discussion.
>>>> =20
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