[Ads-l] Now in your hands, the the key to the "singularity"...

Fri Jun 3 14:57:34 UTC 2016

It is very clear whose "reactions" are "superior" -- the one who claims to
be the judge of who is racist and who is decent.

DanG

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 4:17 AM, Xia Hwang <
0000053c1ce4c7f7-dmarc-request at listserv.uga.edu> wrote:

> ...even your reactions are superior. cut it out. subliminal racism is
> racism all the same. and again, why choose to be racist when you can choose
> to be a decent human being?
>
> bye felicia.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 2, 2016, at 9:03 PM, Dave Hause <dwhause at CABLEMO.NET> wrote:
> >
> > And of course Korea, China, Japan, Viet Nam, etc., are each widely known
> for their racial heterogeneity and multicultural inclusion.
> > Dave Hause
> > -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Lighter
> > Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 7:44 PM
> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Now in your hands, the the key to the "singularity"...
> >
> > I can't believe we're having this discussion.
> >
> > For my own part, mea culpa.
> >
> > (A Roman-chauvinist phrase implying that Latin is better than English.)
> >
> > JL
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 8:14 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
> wrote:
> >>> On Jun 2, 2016, at 8:00 PM, Charles C Doyle <cdoyle at UGA.EDU> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> But then, "Asian" is also a European construct--and pretty lumpish!
> >>>
> >>> --Charlie
> >>
> >> I don't think lumpishness is the issue; "Europe" is pretty lumpy too,
> and named for young lady who had an affair with a bull, mutatis mutandis,
> and apparently we're on board (as it were) with that.  And America (or, if
> you prefer, the Americas) is lumpy and named for some Italian guy but
> nobody much complains.  I think it's the relational/perspectival issue in
> "Oriental" that rankles the ranklees.
> >>
> >> At least one account of "Asia" is that the Greeks (e.g. Herodotus)
> picked it up from 'Akkadian _asu_ "to go out, to rise," in reference to the
> sun, thus "the land of the sunrise"', so very much like "Orient", but then
> again if this is right at least its origin is Asian, albeit Southwest Asian.
> >>
> >> LH
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------- Information from the mail header
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> >>> Poster:       Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> >>> Subject:      Re: Now in your hands, the the key to the
> "singularity"...
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>> The buzz in college was that "Oriental" is Occident-centric, i.e.,
> >>> racist.  Why? Because East Asian cultures differ considerably and
> >>> cannot be lumped together.
> >>>
> >>> Also, "the Orient" is an exotic Euro-American construct.
> >>>
> >>> JL
> >>>
> >>> .
> >>>
> >>> JL
> >>>
> >>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Cohen, Gerald Leonard <gcohen at mst.edu>
> wrote:
> >>>> Hmmm. What's this all about?  I've been a long-time member of this
> list
> >>>> and don't remember any racist messages being sent.  Racist terms may
> >>>> occasionally appear as part of a discussion on language, but I don't
> remember
> >>>> them every appearing with a racist intent (e.g., anti-black,
> anti-Oriental).
> >>>>
> >>>> Gerald Cohen
> >>>>
> >>>> ________________________________________
> >>>> From: American Dialect Society [ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] on behalf of
> Xia Hwang [0000053c1ce4c7f7-dmarc-request at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU]
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 1:26 PM
> >>>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> >>>> Subject: Re: Now in your hands, the the key to the "singularity"...
> >>>>
> >>>> ---------------------- Information from the mail header
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> >>>> Sender:       American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> >>>> Poster:       Xia Hwang <xhwang1 at AOL.COM>
> >>>> Subject:      Re: Now in your hands, the the key to the
> "singularity"...
> >>>>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> why choose to be racist when you can choose to be a decent human
> being?
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>>>> On Jun 2, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Jesse Sheidlower <jester at PANIX.COM>
> wrote:
> >>>>>> =20
> >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 01, 2016 at 11:57:35PM -0700, Xia Hwang wrote:
> >>>>>> hi jesse,=20
> >>>>>> how about booting ppl for offensive, racist ass posts?
> >>>>> =20
> >>>>> I have done this on a very few occasions, but only in cases that
> were real=
> >>>> ly extreme and had no conceivable relation to language discussion.
> >>>>> =20
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