[Ads-l] FW from Barry Popik: Muhammad Ali quotes (plus Drew Bundini Brown & Gary Belkin)
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Sun Jun 5 08:42:19 UTC 2016
Two others cited by Barry, both from 1966:
"I don't have any punch. I just hit a man so many times he _wished_ I had
That "wished" should be _wisht_, i.e. "wishes."
Ali was a colored boy from behind the Cotton Curtain. In addition to being
dialect-proper, _wisht_ shows that, among other things, he had a clear
understanding of the syntax and semantics of English tense. Cf.
*"I don't have any punch. I just hit a man so many times he *wishes* I had
"... different strokes for different folks."
There appears to be an antedating in an unusual - IMO, anyhow, - pre- Ali
source, though Ali's use antedates those of Sylvester "Syl" Johnson and
Sylvester "Sly" Stone.
A Study of the Roles of Attitudes and Motivation in Second-Language Learning
Wallace E. Lambert
McGill University - 1961 - Snippet view - Page 5
Final Technical Report, Volume 2, November 25, 1961
The pigeon in its chamber or the child in its classroom can go as fast and
as far as its abilities permit--all limits are theirs alone. And l think
this is the most important element to retain . . . _different strokes for
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On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Cohen, Gerald Leonard <gcohen at mst.edu>
> Barry Popik, compiler of the extraordinary website barrypopik.com, sent
> me a message
> this morning with a cc. to several other ads-l members. I now share it
> with the entire
> Btw, if Barry's contributions to the study of English were ever organized
> published in book form, the resulting volumes would likely fill an entire
> Gerald Cohen
> From: Barry Popik [bapopik at aol.com]
> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 2:28 AM
> To: Cohen, Gerald Leonard
> Subject: Muhammad Ali quotes (plus Drew Bundini Brown & Gary Belkin)
> Muhammad Ali died. Time to take a look at his quotes.
> --Barry Popik
> "Boxing is a lot of white men watching two black men beat each other up"
> This has to be better than 2002.
> "Fight of the Century"
> Ali-Frazier at Madison Square Garden, but it was used for Jack Johnson
> much earlier.
> "Just because you beat the man, it doesn't make you the man"
> Referring to Ken Norton's victory over Ali. Norton didn't become the man.
> "Never hook with a hooker"
> Joe Frazier threw hooks.
> "Don't count the days, make the days count"
> Before Ali's time.
> "Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion"
> Ali in 1978. Popular on gym posters.
> "It's the punch you don't see that knocks you out"
> Not really Ali, but used by his trainer.
> "Let's get ready to rumble!"
> Not Ali's trademark saying, but Ali did say 'I'm ready to rumble!"
> G.O.A.T. (Greatest Of All Time); "I am the greatest"
> You could do a whole column just on this one.
> "They talk about me like a dog"
> Ali, but also used by President Obama.
> "Ropers and Dopers"
> A Texas saying, somewhat of a cowboy takeoff on Ali's famous "rope-a-dope."
> "Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee"
> Perhaps written by Bronx-born Gary Belkin? Drew Bundini Brown?
> Drew Bundini Brown (March 21, 1928 – September 24, 1987) was an assistant
> trainer andcornerman of Muhammad Ali, as well as occasional film actor.
> He was portrayed by actors Bernie Mac and Jamie Foxx in the films Don King:
> Only in America, and Ali respectively.
> Brown was also one of Ali's speech writers. He wrote certain poems,
> including that which coined Ali's famous and oft quoted:
> Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, your hands can't hit what your
> eyes can't see.
> Ali used the poem to taunt Sonny Liston at the press conference prior to
> his February 25, 1964 victory over the WBA and WBC champion to claim both
> Gary Belkin, 78; Emmy-winning comedy writer
> ASSOCIATED PRESS
> August 9, 2005
> Gary Belkin, an Emmy-winning comedy writer who worked on hit sitcoms and
> classic television shows, including Sid Caesar's "Caesar's Hour," "The
> Carol Burnett Show" and "Sesame Street," has died. He was 79.
> The Bronx, N.Y.-born Mr. Belkin died July 28 in Los Angeles of emphysema,
> according to his friend, Mona Charles.
> He also wrote poetry for Muhammad Ali.
> Columbia Records hired Belkin to work on an album of poems said to be
> written by Ali. Belkin was listed as producer but said several times that
> he had actually written many of the poems, which were intended to be part
> of the buildup to the fight with Sonny Liston in 1964.
> On the record, Ali told listeners to expect "a total eclipse of Sonny" and
> wrote, "Here I predict Mr. Liston's total dismemberment, I'll hit him so
> hard he'll wonder where October and November went."
> George Plimpton, who knew Ali and wrote about him, and David Remnick, the
> editor of The New Yorker who published a biography of Ali in 1998, publicly
> questioned how many of the poems Belkin wrote. Plimpton said he had
> witnessed Ali write a poem. Remnick said, "There's no doubt that Ali wrote
> a great deal of what he recited."
> The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org
All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint to
come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org
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