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[ADSGarson O'Toole]

There is an error in the 1957 citation excerpt. I forgot to correct an
OCR error. The word "lace" should have been "face".

On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 11:49 AM, ADSGarson O'Toole
<adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is a variant in 1957 with a different fluid.
>
> [ref] 1957 March 6, Naugatuck Daily News, What Our Readers Think:
> George McNamara Explains "Why I Am In This Race", Quote Page 8, Column
> 7, Naugatuck, Connecticut. (NewspaperArchive)[/ref]
>
> [End excerpt]
> These out of town politicians might know their (hogs) and their corn
> cobs and be able to fool the village yokels but no one is going to
> spit in my lace and tell me it's raining. I know better.
> Sincerely yours,
> GEORGE E. MCNAMARA
> [End excerpt]
>
>
> Below is an instance that was spoken on August 7, 1970. I suspect this
> is a bowdlerized version (bowdlerized by the speaker; not the
> transcriber).
>
> Year: 1972
> Title: Sixth Illinois Constitutional Convention, Record of
> Proceedings: Verbatim transcripts: August 6, 1970 to September 3, 1970
> Volume 5
> Date: August 7, 1970
> Speaker: Mr. Patch (Delegate Patch)
> Quote Page 3774
> Database: Full View in Illinois Digital Archives (Also snippet view in
> Google Books)
>
> http://www.idaillinois.org/cdm/compoundobject/collection/isl2/id/6263/rec/12
>
> [Begin excerpt]
> Who are we kidding? You know, there's an old saying, you know, "Don't
> pour that water in my face and tell me it's raining."
> [End excerpt]
>
>
> There is an instance in the play "Five on the Black Hand Side". The
> first copyright date of the volume in full view in GB is 1969, but a
> note says that the play was revised and rewritten in 1977. There is
> also a match in a GB volume with a 1973 date, so it is possible that
> the phrase did appear in the 1969 play, but GB dates for plays are
> highly unreliable. Verification is needed.
>
> Year: 1969 copyright (revised and rewritten in 1977)
> Title: Five on the Black Hand Side: A Play in Three Acts
> Author: Charlie L. Russell
> Act I
> Quote Page 20
>
> https://books.google.com/books?id=RF-Mc05XGvgC&q=raining#v=snippet&q=raining&f=false
>
> [Begin excerpt]
> GIDEON. That's because you don't understand yourself. Hey, man,
> sisters are some beautiful people. Man, we can't afford to get into a
> negative thing with the sisters. How are we going to survive without
> strong families?
>
> Booker T.: Tell me anything, boy. Pee on my back and tell me it's raining.
> [Begin excerpt]
>
>
> Here is the raw match for the play circa 1973 in GB. As noted
> previously, the dates assigned to plays in GB are not reliable.
>
> [Begin raw match data]
> The American Place Theatre: Plays - Page 218
> https://books.google.com/books?id=-BuyAAAAIAAJ
> Richard Schotter - 1973
>
> Hey, man, sisters are some beautiful people. Man, we can't afford to
> get a negative thing with the sisters. How are we going to survive
> without strong families?
> Booker T.: Tell me anything, boy. Pee on my back and tell me it's raining.
> [End raw match data]
>
>
> Here is another raw match with a GB date of 1973.
>
> [Begin raw match]
> Alias Big Cherry: the Confessions of a Master Criminal - Page 85
> https://books.google.com/books?id=G-9AAAAAIAAJ
> Robert H. Adleman - 1973 - ‎Snippet view
>
> Are you trying to spit in my face and tell me it's raining outside?"
> Albert began to cry. Tears streaming down his face, he tried to tell
> his story — he had used the money to pay for his sister's operation,
> but Hoffman cut him off. "You take that kind
> [End raw match]
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 8:08 AM, Jonathan Lighter
> <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Back in 1976, in the great Western _The Outlaw Josey Wales_, I noted
>> the proverbial-sounding phrase, "Don't piss down my back and tell me
>> it's raining." In fact, it was described in the movie as an "old
>> saying."
>>
>> On rare occasions since then I've encountered "...on my leg..." and
>> "...on my shoe..."
>>
>> Today on CNN an anti-Trump Republican strategist admonished a Trump
>> apologist, "Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining."
>>
>> Which was the exact title of an outspoken social and judicial critique
>> by Judge Judy (1996).
>>
>> Even more surprising to us old folks is  _Piss in My Face and Tell Me
>> It's Raining_ (2015), by Christian feminist Tina Perry.
>>
>> Does anybody know if these phrases go back much  before 1976?  GB
>> gives little reason to think so.
>>
>> JL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the truth."
>>
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