[Ads-l] RES: /hud/

David Daniel dad at COARSECOURSES.COM
Tue Jun 14 19:47:37 UTC 2016


Southern California, 1960's. The hoods (rhymes with goods) were the guys who
smoked cigarettes out behind the gym and took shop. All the Grease
characters woulda been hoods (rhymes with goods) to us.
DAD 

Enviada em: terça-feira, 14 de junho de 2016 16:02
Para: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Assunto: Re: /hud/

Poster:       Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: /hud/
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> On Jun 14, 2016, at 2:46 PM, Paul A Johnston, Jr =
<paul.johnston at WMICH.EDU> wrote:
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> When I lived in the Chicago suburbs as a boy (1956-64), /hud/ was the 
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name for any sort of juvenile delinquent (or more likely, wannabe j. =
d.--the town was too "Leave It To Beaver"-ish to have many real hoods.  =
But it was always /hud/,never /hUd/, which is what you wore on top of a =
parka in the winter.  I've never met anyone else who used this =
pronunciation.
>=20
> Paul

Did it originate as a spelling pronunciation, I wonder?  I've certainly =
heard both /hud/-lum and /hUd/-lum and I can't even be sure which I say, =
but (growing up in NYC in the 50s) I've only ever heard /hUd/ as in =
"good", not /hud/ as in "food", both for the J.D. and for the attached =
head (or stove, or camera) cover.=20

LH=20


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> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jonathan Lighter" <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:57:02 AM
>> Subject: /hud/
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>> Poster:       Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
>> Subject:      /hud/
>> =
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>> I was surprised - no, startled - thirty-odd years ago when I first  
>>heard a Chicagoan pronounce "hood" (hoodlum; dangerous  criminal)  
>>with  the vowel of "too."
>>=20
>> Back where I come from, "hoodlum" has that vowel, but "hood"  never  
>>does.


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