[Ads-l] Preferred Pronoun--pragmatics and policy

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Mon Oct 10 12:41:57 EDT 2016

"[A]n August [2015] post on the Office of Diversity and Inclusion's website
that encouraged UT faculty, staff and students to be 'welcoming and
inclusive for all' by not assuming gender identity and by asking for
preferred pronouns, including the gender-neutral options like 'xe,' 'xem'
and  'xyr.'"

My two cents: LGBTQ students should be allowed to choose from "he" and
"she," as they prefer.

All else is vanity and will result in confusion, chaos, and resentment far
beyond any presumed therapeutic benefit for individuals or society. LGBTQ
persons (and anybody else) not satisfied with "he" or "she" can, if they
wish, try to persuade everyone they meet to use any arcane novelty pronoun
of their choice.

...knowing they are probably encouraging a right-wing populist uprising
down the road.


On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Geoffrey Nathan <geoffnathan at wayne.edu>

> It's rare that the two aspects of my life intersect, but here's a question
> that involves both the IT policy and the American English and
> sociolinguistic sides.
> Our university, like many others, is instituting a system where students
> and staff can choose a 'Preferred Name' which will then show up on class
> rosters, grade lists, and other 'public-facing' web documents. The legal
> name will remain hidden except for  those pages that need to display it
> (such as social security, financial aid, bank accounts etc.). This is not
> difficult to do (aside from some programming on the back end.)
> However, there has also been a request for people to be able to set a
> 'preferred pronoun'. This is generally an issue for transgendered students,
> who are trying to avoid being referred to by the incorrectly gendered
> pronoun. And, of course, since we are  in the 2010's, there are also some
> experimental non-gendered pronouns floating around.
> So I have several questions:
> If you are at a university which has instituted 'preferred pronoun', what
> choices does your university give to those who choose one?
> How is this information conveyed to those who need to see it? Preferred
> names show up on class rosters, advisement pages, grade submission pages
> and so on. But there's no place in those pages for 'pronoun'.
> We could add a field there, but how do we populate it? By putting
> something there we announce that the person has chosen one (for the usual
> Gricean reasons), and thus violate their privacy.
> But if we populate that field for everyone, we'd either have to make all
> 30K faculty, staff and students choose one (and have to hound those who
> refused) or we'd have to guess for the 99.9% who didn't choose, and given
> the number of gender-neutral first  names (Kim, Lee, Kaoru) we'd likely
> guess wrong and annoy lots of other people.
> Thoughts? Please reply off-list, as this is likely not of much interest to
> the majority of listmembers.
> Geoff
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