[Ads-l] dark poll

[Laurence Horn]

> On Oct 26, 2016, at 5:02 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Sure -- all the wrong ones.
> 
> There have always been accusations against polling organizations that they
> are biased, either intentionally or not. Didn't the Goldwater campaign
> accuse the Gallup organization of being a "propaganda machine"? (Didn't the
> Gallup organization predict Romney the victor over Obama?)
> 
> DanG

I know there were some Republican-friendly polls that were apparently widely believed at the time that predicted Romney, but I don't recall whether Gallup was among them.  There was the famous example (I assume actual and not apocryphal) of polls that predicted a landslide defeat of the Democratic candidate (Truman vs. Dewey? FDR vs. somebody?) that was flawed by having been conducted by telephone at a time when many voters were too poor to have one.  But that wasn't a dark poll, just a stupid one.

LH
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> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 6:41 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> Have we any proof that "they" call "them" "dark polls"?
>> 
>> That seems like a very strange concept for any polling organization. The
>> "dark polls" that the T---p alluded to were polls from prominent, reputable
>> sources indicating he's behind.
>> 
>> Can anyone cite some actual, phony "dark polls" in the United States?
>> 
>> JL
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>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Berson at att.net <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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>>> One Tweet, according to Rachel Maddow just now, has "the the Trump."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am reminded of that other sociopath, Zippy the Pinhead's "Mr. The
>> Toad."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If I have his name right.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Joel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>>> 
>>> ------ Original message------
>>> *From: *Jonathan Lighter
>>> *Date: *Mon, Oct 24, 2016 5:48 PM
>>> *To: *ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU;
>>> *Subject:*[ADS-L] dark poll
>>> 
>>> T---p (or, as he now styles himself, "t
>>> 
>>> "the T---p"):
>>> 
>>> "They call them 'dark polls.'
>>> 
>>> They are phony polls put out
>>> 
>>> by phonymedia...to suppress
>>> 
>>> the vote."
>>> 
>>> JL-- "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
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