[Ads-l] Antedating of "Melting Pot"

Peter Reitan pjreitan at HOTMAIL.COM
Tue Sep 13 23:47:38 UTC 2016


Forgot to include the citation:

The Daily State Journal (Alexandria, Virginia), March 13, 1872, page 3. Chronicling America

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> It is not clear that it was used idiomatically yet=2C but the expression an=
> d the imagery were there.
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> From a lecture entitled=2C "The Nation of the World=2C by Carl Schurz=3B de=
> livered to a meeting of German citizens at Marini's Hall in Washington DC. =
>  His lecture was given in German=3B an English translation appeared in the =
> paper four days later:
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> The New Nation
> Here was the beginning of a new nation which was not be be English=2C not t=
> o be Dutch=2C not to be French=2C but was to fuse and melt them all in the =
> grand American nation. . . .
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> Foreign Elements.
> Now let us glance at the foreign elements in this country.  The are only tw=
> o that are important - the Germans and the Irish. . . . On the whole=2C the=
>  Irish are like certain metals which are worthless by themselves=2C but exc=
> ellent to alloy with others.  Let us trust that notwithstanding the need of=
>  reform in Irish New York=2C the Irish metal will fuse in our great nationa=
> l melting pot to a harmonious combination with the other ingredients.
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> > melting pot (OED=2C 3.b.=2C 1909)
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> > 1889 _N.Y. Times_ 2 Sept. (ProQuest Historical Newspapers)  In view of th=
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> > virtual extinction of the French in the Mississippi Valley the French Can=
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> > ians had a misgiving that if they too were cast into the American melting=
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> > ot they would yield to that mysterious force which blends all foreign ele=
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> > nts into one homogeneous mass.
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