[Ads-l] 192 = 1902

[Marc Sacks]

When the movie came out, I hadn't thought about the next millennium much. I
think I called it "Twenty-oh-one." Never called the year that, though, once
it actually rolled around.

Marc Sacks

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
wrote:

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> =E2=80=9CTwo thousand and one=E2=80=9D for me, if we=E2=80=99re doing a =
> survey.
>
> LH
>
> > On Apr 19, 2017, at 8:36 PM, Jim Parish <jparish at SIUE.EDU> wrote:
> >=20
> > I've always pronounced the title "two thousand one".
> >=20
> > Jim Parish
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> > On 4/19/2017 7:31 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> >> And wasn't the movie title "2001" usu. pronounced as "two thousand =
> and one"?
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> >> JL
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> >> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 8:30 PM, Jonathan Lighter =
> <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
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> >>> Sounds perfectly normal to me.  I'd say either "Two thousand two" or =
> "two
> >>> thousand and two."
> >>>=20
> >>> "Twenty oh two" is possible, but I wouldn't say it.
> >>>=20
> >>> JL
> >>>=20
> >>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Barretts Mail =
> <mail.barretts at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
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> >>>> Thank you! I had no idea how to search for that in the archives! BB
> >>>>=20
> >>>>> On 19 Apr 2017, at 11:05, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >>>>>=20
> >>>>> This has come here in the past, as in this 2010 thread:
> >>>>>=20
> >>>>> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/ads-l/2010-Januar
> >>>> y/095487.html
> >>>>> As I said there, the "nineteen two" formulation seems to have been =
> quite
> >>>>> common -- perhaps the most common way to say the name of the year =
> at the
> >>>>> time. I found evidence for it from class cheers and other sources =
> when I
> >>>>> looked into the matter in aught one:
> >>>>>=20
> >>>>> =
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usage.english/msg/e8a4080f14289670
> >>>>>=20
> >>>>> Based on our previous discussion, I think either "nineteen two" or
> >>>>> "nineteen and two" would've been more common at the time than =
> "nineteen
> >>>> oh
> >>>>> two" (or "nineteen aught two" for that matter).
> >>>>>=20
> >>>>>=20
> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Barretts Mail =
> <mail.barretts at gmail.com
> >>>>>=20
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>=20
> >>>>>> As recreated in the film =E2=80=9CJackie,=E2=80=9D Jackie Kennedy =
> pronounced the year
> >>>>>> =E2=80=9C1902=E2=80=9D as =E2=80=9C19 2=E2=80=9D in her 1961 tour =
> of the White House. The original is
> >>>> at
> >>>>>> about 6:30 into the video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?
> >>>> v=3DCbFt4h3Dkkw <
> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DCbFt4h3Dkkw>.
> >>>>>>=20
> >>>>>> I pronounce this as =E2=80=9C19 OH 2=E2=80=9D and her =
> pronunciation seems odd to me,
> >>>>>> though perhaps it=E2=80=99s a regional or chronolectal thing.
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