[Ads-l] "Drop" becoming confusing

[Laurence Horn]

Seems to me like the transportation plan use is separate from the one involving yods and as mentioned is a broadening of the album use = ‘come out with’.  Or could we say both uses mean ‘introduce’?

LH

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On Dec 15, 2017, at 4:16 PM, Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

>> On 15 Dec 2017, at 15:25, Will Salmon <wnsalmon at D.UMN.EDU> wrote:
>> 
>>> The term, as you interpret it, presupposes that the yod pronunciation is 
>>> the older one. Is this really the case?
>>> 
>>> Sali.
>> 
>> Hmm. I guess it depends on whether there's actually a yod being dropped or if what's really going on is a merger of /ju/ and /u/ in specific phonological contexts, as has been claimed. In either case, in western Canada it's perceived as belonging to older speakers and more careful speech.
>> 
>> It was interesting to me though that some of the students understood 'dropping' one way, and others did so in another way.
>> Will
> 
> Have you asked for an analogous sentence? I can imagine something like “drop text into this field” when doing web design or something like that, but maybe there’s some other usage among college students that is coming into play.
> 
> Benjamin Barrett
> Formerly of Seattle, WA
> 
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>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 12/15/2017 3:19 PM, Will Salmon wrote:
>>>> When I was teaching sociolinguistics in Vancouver a few years ago, I assigned a project in which students were to investigate yod-dropping in the community in words like tune/tyune, news/nyews, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> Some of the students interpreted the assignment so that "yod-dropping" meant dropping yod into the various words, resulting in tyune/nyews etc., rather than dropping yod out of them.
>>>> 
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>>>>> On Dec 15, 2017, at 2:43 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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>>>>> Headline I saw today:
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>>>>> L-ong time coming: Transit agencies drop plan for commuters during L-train
>>>>> closure
>>>>> https://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/40/51/dtg-l-train-plans-update-2017-12-22-bk.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I first saw the headline, I assumed it meant that the plan was being
>>>>> thrown away. It was only when I read the entire article that I learned the
>>>>> plan was just announced.
>>>>> 
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