[Ads-l] A winner-go-home game

Wed Dec 20 18:39:23 UTC 2017

Laurence Horn wrote:
> My guess is that it refers to the question from the interviewer as to
> whether the Saints are over their earlier difficulty with winning on
> the road. Vilma is saying that in these heightened life-or-death,
> win-or-go-home (or loser-go-home) circumstances, that’s no
> longer a matter of concern.

Thanks LH. I was trying to formulate what you have stated so well.
Garson

>> On Dec 20, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>
>> But what the "that" in "that's an issue"?
>>
>> DanG
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 1:20 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole <
>> adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Here is a link to the article.
>>>
>>> http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2012/01/new_orleans_
>>> saints_lb_jonathan_5.html
>>>
>>> My hypothesis was that both phrases should have been rendered as "win
>>> or go home".
>>>
>>> [Begin suggestion for corrected transcript]
>>> "Obviously the playoffs are win or go home and teams are literally
>>> fighting for their lives. When you talk about win or go home, I don't
>>> think that's an issue.
>>> [End suggestion for corrected transcript]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I am trying to understand the excerpt. The context seems to be "losing on
>>>> the road", and that losing may be a desirable result because it allows
>>> the
>>>> loser to go home.
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise, it seems like gibberish.
>>>>
>>>> DanG
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:58 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole <
>>>> adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Below is a 2012 transcript in which the phrases "winner go home" and
>>>>> "win or go home" are adjacent. I do not know if the transcription was
>>>>> performed with the help of voice recognition software, but the
>>>>> divergent phrases from the same speaker point to a transcription
>>>>> error.
>>>>>
>>>>> Title: New Orleans Saints LB Jonathan Vilma conference call transcript
>>>>> Author: James Varney (NOLA.com, The Times-Picayune)
>>>>> Timestamp: January 08, 2012 at 1:40 PM, updated January 08, 2012 at
>>> 1:50 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> [Begin excerpt]
>>>>> Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma spoke with reporters this morning.
>>>>> Here is a transcript of that Q&A:
>>>>>
>>>>> Why is it possibly not valid anymore that the team's struggles on the
>>>>> road this season are behind them?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Obviously the playoffs are winner go home and teams are literally
>>>>> fighting for their lives. When you talk about win or go home, I don't
>>>>> think that's an issue. I think it's about executing, planning and
>>>>> doing what it takes to win the game.
>>>>> [End excerpt]
>>>>>
>>>>> Garson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at GMAIL.COM>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Voice recognition software?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DanG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That was one of my (more generous) guesses.  Curiously, there’s a
>>>>> reference later in the same paragraph to a different contest as a
>>>>> “win-or-go-home game”.  Maybe the CBS website employs a half-time
>>> editor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LH
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Laurence Horn <
>>> laurence.horn at yale.edu
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, it’s usually known as a “win-or-go-home” game, in which the
>>> loser
>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> eliminated (from a tournament or further playoff contention).  But
>>>>> then we
>>>>>>>> read:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dallas and Seattle play next week in a literal winner-go-home game.
>>>>>>>> Whoever loses will be immediately eliminated.
>>>>>>>> https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-playoff-picture-
>>>>>>>> falcons-end-packers-playoff-hopes-nfc-race-taking-shape/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thus, it’s really a loser-go-home game. Mainstream media purveying
>>> fake
>>>>>>>> news?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LH
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