[Ads-l] dead fucking boring - infix diagnostic
Robin Hamilton
robin.hamilton3 at VIRGINMEDIA.COM
Thu Feb 23 09:36:52 UTC 2017
Could what is happening here be described as the use of a double intensifier?
1. Simple Statement -- "That's boring."
2a. Single Intensifier (1) -- "That's dead boring."
2b. Single Intensifier (2) -- "That's fucking boring."
3a. Double Intensifier (1) -- "That's dead fucking boring."
3b. Double Intensifier (2) -- "That's fucking dead boring."
I'm inclined to think that 3b is invalid -- it rings off to me. Or at least
that 3a and 3b should be analysed differently, whereby 3a involves an inter-term
in a strongly bound colocation -- "dead [fucking] boring" -- whereas 3b is an
example of an intensifier applied to a phrase rather than to a single word --
"fucking [dead boring]".
Robin.
>
> On 23 February 2017 at 06:12 Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
>
>
> Sorry, I think you’re saying that “dead boring” is two words.
>
> What I’m wondering is whether “fucking” can be used as a diagnostic to
> determine whether two elements such as these are a single word.
>
> Benjamin Barrett
> Formerly of Seattle, WA
>
> > On 22 Feb 2017, at 17:54, Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > It’s not clear to me, either, but it certainly feels and seems that way.
> > Are there non-infixes that can go there? BB
> >
> >> On 22 Feb 2017, at 17:37, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think the occurrence of “bloody”, “fuckin(g)”, “damn”, etc. within a
> >> phonological/morphological word, as in “Massa[fuckin]chusetts”,
> >> “fan[damn]tastic” or “abso[bloody]lutely” are better candidates for
> >> infix status than “dead fucking boring”, since it’s not clear to me
> >> that “fucking” is an affix at all in the latter case.
> >>
> >> LH
> >>
> >>> On Feb 22, 2017, at 6:05 PM, Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at GMAIL.COM>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> “Fucking” and variations (blooming, bloody) are the few options for
> >>> infixing in English.
> >>>
> >>> (Comic: http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=8463
> >>> <http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=8463>)
> >>>
> >>> Although it’s possible to parse “dead fucking boring” as “dead boring
> >>> and fucking boring”, I’m inclined to parse “fucking” as an infix
> >>> between the two. It, as well as “dead bloody boring”, comes up on
> >>> Google.
> >>>
> >>> Here are some tests that don’t come up on Google:
> >>>
> >>> dead terribly boring (dead, terribly boring meaning dead and terribly
> >>> boring is on Google)
> >>> dead frighteningly boring
> >>> dead jacked boring =? dead-jacked boring
> >
>
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