[Ads-l] Query: Slang "insect promenade"
Robin Hamilton
robin.hamilton3 at VIRGINMEDIA.COM
Fri Jan 20 15:13:46 UTC 2017
The author was A.R.Marshall:
“Pomes” from the Pink 'un – A. R. Marshall – Google Books
https://books.google.com/books/about/Pomes_from_the_Pink_un.html?id=fFUoMwEACAAJ
https://books.google.com/books/about/Pomes_from_the_Pink_un.html?id...Title,
"Pomes" from the Pink 'un. Author, A. R. Marshall. Published, 1897. Length, 126
pages.
See Jonathon Green: thedabbler.co.uk/2012/03/pink-un-blues/
R.
>
> On 20 January 2017 at 14:54 Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
>
> The closest word I can come up with is head ('ead'?).
>
> On Jan 20, 2017 9:48 AM, "Robin Hamilton"
> <robin.hamilton3 at virginmedia.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The reference would seem to be to the speaker's face: anglice, "I closed
> > my
> > eyes in my face". But how you get from "insect promenade" to "face"
> > beats
> > me.
> >
> > A further problem is that while the poem mostly plays on rhyming slang,
> > one or
> > two items are Cant, or simply slang -- booze, do a bunk, give the
> > office,
> > flimsy, mug -- so whether "insect promenade" is playing off against
> > rhyming
> > slang or some other register is an issue.
> >
> > I'm tempted by "Lambeth Walk", but that's anachronistic.
> >
> > Malapropism, allusion, pun, or rhyming slang? You pays your money ...
> > Farmer
> > obviously couldn't fathom it, otherwise he'd have glossed it himself. He
> > glosses many more-transparent items in the lyric.
> >
> > Farmer's source in Musa Pedestris is cited as: "The Rhyme of the Rusher
> > //
> > 1892
> > // By Doss Chiderdoss in Sporting Times, 29 Oct. In Appropriate Rhyming
> > Slanguage," but it's possible that this is reprinted from Guy Fawkes,
> > Esq.,
> > performed at the Gaiety Theatre in 1890, with Lyrics by Doss
> > Childerdoss:
> >
> > J. P. Wearing, The London Stage 1890-1899: A Calendar of Productions,
> > Performers, and Personnel, p. 32
> > https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=nF8pAgAAQBAJ
> >
> > But appearance of "Doss Childerdoss" in Guy Fawkes may itself be a
> > reference to
> > the Sporting Times. This snippet from google books:
> >
> > "The hey-day of rhyming slang was probably just before the turn of the
> > century.
> > Then the Sporting Times--the world famous Pink 'Un used to regularly
> > feature
> > examples of verse in rhyming slang by 'Doss Childerdoss' ..."
> >
> > https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=WulJAAAAIAAJ&q=%22sporting+times%22+
> > Childerdoss&dq=%22sporting+times%22+Childerdoss&hl=en&sa=
> > X&ved=0ahUKEwjJi52C-dDRAhWBDMAKHcFLB4EQ6AEIJDAA
> >
> > Robin Hamilton
> >
> > >
> > > On 20 January 2017 at 02:13 ADSGarson O'Toole <
> > adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Gerald: You have probably seen this, but it might be interesting to
> > > other readers. John Stephen Farmer carefully annotated the poem, but,
> > > oddly, he did not provide an annotation for "insect promenade".
> > >
> > > Year: 1896
> > > Title: Musa Pedestris: Three Centuries of Canting Songs and Slang
> > > Rhymes (1536-1896)
> > > Author: John Stephen Farmer
> > >
> > > https://books.google.com/books?id=_zM1AQAAIAAJ&q=
> > promenade#v=snippet&
> > >
> > > Below is a rhyming slang interpretation for "insects" but it does not
> > > work well for the singular "insect", and it may be irrelevant.
> > >
> > > Year: 2015
> > > Title: Little Book of Cockney Rhyming Slang
> > > Author: Sid Finch
> > >
> > > [Begin excerpt]
> > > Insects and Ants – Underpants.
> > > [End excerpt]
> > >
> > > Garson
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Cohen, Gerald Leonard <
> > gcohen at mst.edu>
> > > wrote:
> > > > A poem titled "The Rhyme of the Rusher" (1892) is marked by rhyming
> > > > slang
> > > >
> > > > and cant. One particular item is unclear to me: "insect
> > promenade." What
> > > > in
> > > >
> > > > the world does that mean?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The relevant lines are (and btw, mince pies = eyes]:
> > > >
> > > > And I smiled as I closed my two mince pies
> > > >
> > > > In my insect promenade.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Any help would be much appreciated.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Gerald Cohen
> > > >
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