[Ads-l] For want of an apostrophe ... [correction to the OED]
Robin Hamilton
robin.hamilton3 at VIRGINMEDIA.COM
Tue Mar 28 22:16:04 UTC 2017
The original text in Richard Head's _The English Rogue_ (1665) reads:
(Head) "Some of the men were all bloody, and their Mobs Scarfs and Hoods all
rent, and
none of them sober: ..."
The OED repunctuates thus:
(OED) "Their Mobs, Scarfs, and Hoods all rent."
[Actually, what I hadn't noted before, the OED also decides to capitalise
"Their", so the OED makes three changes to Head's original text, against my one.
That's not even counting the colon-to-full-stop change in the OED.]
(Hamilton) "Some of the men were all bloody, and their Mobs' Scarfs and Hoods
all rent, and
none of them sober: ..."
Both repunctuations make sense -- they do, however, make a different sense.
Context is all, quoth the Preacher ...
Robin
[Also, there's this, which I hadn't known till I thought to check in the wake of
Joel's post:
Nouns and adjectives
As in modern English, the only regular noun inflection was the -s ending of the
genitive and plural: irregular plurals were mostly the same as those that have
survived into recent English. The use of an apostrophe in the genitive singular
was optional in the sixteenth century; it was frequent in the seventeenth, but
only became established around 1700. *In the genitive plural the apostrophe was
not used in this period.* [My emphasis.]
Coincidentally, that's from elsewhere on the OED website --
http://public.oed.com/aspects-of-english/english-in-time/grammar-in-early-modern-english/
R.]
>
> On 28 March 2017 at 22:14 Joel Berson <berson at ATT.NET> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, a mob cap. My first interpretation. And no apostrophe -- they're
> all plurals.
>
>
> Joel
>
>
> From: Amy West <medievalist at W-STS.COM>
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 8:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [ADS-L] For want of an apostrophe ... [correction to the OED]
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> On 3/28/17 12:00 AM, ADS-L automatic digest system wrote:
> > Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 10:51:52 +0100
> > From: Robin Hamilton<robin.hamilton3 at VIRGINMEDIA.COM>
> > Subject: For want of an apostrophe ... [correction to the OED]
> >
> > Not quite a hanging matter, but the absence of an apostrophe causes the
> > OED to
> > provide a false citation for MOB, n1, "†2. A loose informal garment for
> > a woman;
> > = dishabille n. 2. Also mob-dress. Obs."
> >
> > The problem with this entry is the first citation. This reads, as the
> > OED gives
> > it:
> >
> > "1665 R. Head Eng. Rogue I. sig. F5v, Their Mobs, Scarfs, and Hoods all
> > rent."
>
> There's a style of historical cap called a "mob cap". "Mob" here makes
> sense to me not as a garment but as a cap: The list would then be all
> headgear.
>
> ---Amy West
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