[Ads-l] Honyock
Dave Hause
dwhause at CABLEMO.NET
Mon May 29 04:41:44 UTC 2017
Anecdotal (non)usage: my wife, 70, grew up in Decatur, IL, half Hungarian
(father US born, paternal grandparents were the immigrants) didn't remember
ever hearing either "honiak" or "hunyak" but did know that "hunky" was a
slur. There was apparently a large enough Hungarian community to support at
least one tavern (her aunt's) but my social obliviousness was unaware of the
community when we lived there.
Dave Hause, dwhause at cablemo.net
Waynesville, MO
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Lighter
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 1:43 PM
To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Subject: Re: Honyock
> Any relation to “honky”?
No, but "honky" is pretty clearly from "hunky" ('Hungarian or Slavic
immigrant.')
JL
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com> wrote:
> To me, huniak is a pseudo-Rusyn term for a Hungarian.
>
> On May 25, 2017 10:27 PM, "Peter Reitan" <pjreitan at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Saw this on a forum on WordWizard.com:
> >
> >
> > hunyak / honyock(er)
> >
> > Wed Feb 18, 2004 5:34 pm
> >
> > From the OED.
> >
> > hunyak (_______). U.S. Also honyock, -er.
> > [f. Hungarian a. and n. after Polack.]
> > = hunk n.3 (See also quot. 1941.)
> > Only in disparaging use.
> > 1911 W. P. Dillingham Dict. Races 92 Magyar, Hungarrian Hun, or Hunyak
> > in
> > popular language.
> > 1919 S. Lewis Free Air (1924) ix. 94, I could buy out half these
> > Honyockers!
> > 1938 ‘E. Queen’ Four of Hearts (1939) 17 Tossing away the stockholders’
> > dough like a hunyak on Saturday night.
> > 1941 Sat. Even. Post 7 June 29/1 ‘Honyocks’, the Yankee neighbors called
> > them [sc. immigrants from Central Europe]. ‘Honyocker’ came to
> > be..generally applied to any farmer who tries to raise grain and
> livestock
> > in the high prairies of the Northwest.
> > ________________________________
> > From: Shawnee Moon<mailto:moon.shawnee at GMAIL.COM>
> > Sent: 5/25/2017 18:58
> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU<mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> > Subject: Honyock
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> > Poster: Shawnee Moon <moon.shawnee at GMAIL.COM>
> > Subject: Honyock
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> >
> > Or hunyack, honyak, honyocker, huniak, hunyok, honyok, hunyak
> >
> > My boyfriend called someone up the street a honyocker. Wikipedia has a
> > coup=
> > le theories on its origin. Do any of you have insight you can share?
> >
> > I just found it peculiar.
> >
> > ~Shawnee Moon=20
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