[Ads-l] OT: Sheelanagige was Re: It was not permitted to pass.

[Robin Hamilton]

It's in A-T apparently (though I haven't checked this out) -- "As a folkloristic
motif, the vagina dentata is included in the Aarne-Thompson Index under the code
F547.1.1."

Just a heads-up, if anyone wants to follow through on this.

R.

> 
>     On 30 May 2017 at 03:13 Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU> wrote:
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>     > On May 29, 2017, at 9:25 PM, Joel Berson <berson at ATT.NET> wrote:
>     >
>     > The Wikipedia article "Vagina dentata" has a "See also" to its article
>     > (wait) "Sheela na gig". Which then, of course, has a "See also" to
>     > "Vagina dentata". But neither article has any discussion of its
>     > relationship to the other.
> 
>     And yet they’re both in the category of “things you can’t unsee (also)”.
> 
>     >
>     >
>     > (Wikipedia discusses "vagina dentata" "In folklore" (Hinduism,
>     > Shintoism, Maori), but surely it goes back to Greek mythology?)
> 
>     Hmmm. Which myth are you thinking of, Medusa the Gorgon? I’d never really
> considered her as a manifestation of the V.D. motif (as it were), although
> being turned to stone isn’t a walk in the park either. But I see that if you
> detour through Freud you can see her in that light, or some have claimed to.
> Apparently the snaky hair represents the mother’s pubic patch glimpsed by the
> young boy, who is thus afflicted with fears of castration (even more than he
> would have been anyway). I don’t see it, but there’s this depiction of the
> relation of Medusa to the V.D. motif in a particularly well-argued passage
> excerpted from a paper in _Bits of Organization_, a 2009 volume edited by
> Alison Pullen and Carl Rhodes, found by searching “Vagina Dentata” + “Medusa”;
> emphasis mine.
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>     https://tinyurl.com/y7to5ndq
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>     Turning to Freud, in _Medusa’s Head: The Vagina Dentata and Freudian
> Theory_, Creed (1993) explores the implications of the vagina dentata in
> Freud’s work arguing that in his writing there is a repression of the vagina
> dentata. Freud puts forth a number of theories in which women’s genitals could
> appear castrating rather than castrating. However, viewed from a different
> perspective, Creed notes that each of these theories support, with increasing
> validity, the argument that a woman’s genitals appear castrating. [p. 168]
>     ====================
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>     (No, there are no typos in the above passage, or at least none of mine.
> The author may or may not be named Alison Linstead; Google Books makes it hard
> to tell.)
>     I find it intriguing that this book is published by the Copenhagen
> Business School Press, in their “Advances in Organization Studies” series. I
> have to think business school is different in Denmark…
> 
>     LH
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>     >
>     > Joel
>     >
>     > ________________________________
>     > From: Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
>     > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>     > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 7:54 PM
>     > Subject: Re: [ADS-L] OT: Sheelanagige was Re: It was not permitted to
>     > pass.
>     >
>     >> On May 29, 2017, at 6:49 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
>     >> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> Toothed? That's a new on on me.
>     >
>     > Just your standard garden variety vagina dentata, no?
>     >>
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