[Ads-l] Gandhi-Attributed Quote

Tue Oct 24 06:33:29 UTC 2017

Back in May 2017 Fred inquired about a saying popularly attributed
Mahatma Gandhi, and now the Quote Investigator website has an entry on
the topic:

Be the change you wish to see in the world
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/10/23/be-change/

The article includes a 1913 precursor written by Gandhi.

[Begin acknowledgment]
Great thanks to Vickie MacFadden, Andrew L. Weber, and Lisa Robinton
whose inquiries led QI to formulate this question and perform this
exploration. Special thanks to Charles Doyle, Donna Halper, Brian
Morton, Fred Shapiro, and Nigel Rees for their research on this topic.
Doyle located the 1974 citation independently of QI; Halper located
the 1975 citation; Morton identified the Gandhi precursor. Thanks also
to discussant Jonathan Lighter and the volunteer editors at Wikiquote.
[End acknowledgment]

Garson

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Jonathan Lighter
<wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Apparently influenced by Kant's "categorical imperative" to exemplify the
> ethical behavior you wish others to follow.
>
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> JL
>
> On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 1:18 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole <adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com
>> wrote:
>
>> Correction: The adage "Be the change you want to see" appeared on page
>> 90 of Proverbium in 2016.
>>
>> Garson
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 12:41 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole
>> <adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Charlie published the 1974 citation for Lorrance in Proverbium last
>> > year. There seems to be a difference in the spelling of the first
>> > name: "Arlean" versus "Arleen".
>> >
>> > [ref] 2016, Proverbium: Yearbook of International Proverb Scholarship,
>> > Volume 33, The Dictionary of Modern Proverbs: A Supplement by Charles
>> > Clay Doyle and Wolfgang Mieder, Start Page 85, Quote Page 113,
>> > Published by The University of Vermont, Burlington, Vermont. (Verified
>> > on paper)[/ref]
>> >
>> > [Begin excerpt]
>> > Be the CHANGE you want (wish) to see (in the world). 1974 Arlean
>> > Lorrance, "The Love Project," in Developing Priorities and a Style,
>> > edited by Richard D. Kellough (New York: MSS Information Corp.) 85:
>> > "One way to start a preventative program is to be the change you wish
>> > to see happen" (underlining as shown). 1989 Robert K. Cooper, Health &
>> > Fitness Excellence (Boston: Houghton Mifflin) 486: "Mahatma Gandhi
>> > said: 'You must be the change you wish to see in the world.' You must
>> > be the health, fitness, integrity, compassion.... that you wish to see
>> > in the world" (italics as shown).
>> > [End excerpt]
>> >
>> > Garson
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 10:46 AM, ADSGarson O'Toole
>> > <adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> When I explored the topic in 2014 a woman named Arleen Lorrance was a
>> >> plausible candidate. (I haven't posted a website article yet.)
>> >>
>> >> Year: 1974 Copyright
>> >> Title: Developing Priorities and a Style: Selected Readings in
>> >> Education for Teachers and Parents
>> >> Editor: Richard Dean Kellough (California State University, Sacramento)
>> >> Edition: Second
>> >> Chapter: The Love Project by Arleen Lorrance
>> >> Start Page 85, Quote Page 85
>> >> Database: Google Books Preview
>> >>
>> >> [Begin excerpt]
>> >> THE LOVE PROJECT
>> >> Arleen Lorrance, Seeker
>> >> Initiator and Facilitator of The Love Project
>> >>
>> >> One way to start a preventative program is to be the change you want
>> >> to see happen. That is the essence and substance of the simple and
>> >> successful endeavor known as THE LOVE PROJECT.
>> >> [End excerpt]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Year: 1976 Copyright
>> >> Book: Life is Victorious! : How to Grow Through Grief : A Personal
>> Experience
>> >> Author: Diane Kennedy Pike
>> >> Publisher: Simon and Schuster, New York
>> >> Quote Page 196
>> >> Verified with hardcopy
>> >>
>> >> [Begin excerpt]
>> >> The LOVE PROJECT has become a new way of life for me, one that I can
>> >> share with others. Its six basic principles for living in universal
>> >> love express the core truths of all great religions in secular
>> >> language. Those principles are:
>> >>
>> >> Receive all people as beautiful exactly where they are.
>> >> Perceive problems as opportunities.
>> >> Be the change you want to see happen instead of trying to change
>> everyone else.
>> >> Provide others with the opportunity to give.
>> >> Consciously create your own reality.
>> >> Have no expectations but, rather, abundant expectancy
>> >> [End excerpt]
>> >>
>> >> “Be the Change” — where did this saying come from?
>> >> http://www.compassionatespirit.com/wpblog/2012/08/14/be-the-
>> change-where-did-this-saying-come-from/
>> >>
>> >> Garson
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu>
>> wrote:
>> >>> In the Yale Book of Quotations I list the quote "We must be the change
>> we wish to see in the world" with a citation from the Los Angeles Times in
>> 1989.  This quotation, sometimes with the word "want" instead of "wish," is
>> often attributed to Gandhi.  Charles Doyle has told me in private
>> correspondence that it can be traced back to the early 1970s.  Can Charles
>> or anyone else point me to the earliest findable occurrences of the saying?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Fred Shapiro
>> >>>
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