[Ads-l] Green's: "shine someone on (v.)"

[Jonathan Lighter]

This always seemed to me to be a very weird locution. Why "shine on"?

JL

On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 5:56 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:

> > It seemed to mean "to skip out or not show up for" some meeting or
> responsibility.
>
> I can't recall whether I've heard it used that way, but that use makes
> perfect sense, as in, i.e.:
>
> a) Wanna go to that meeting, tonight?
> b) Let's shine it on.
>
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Andy Bach <afbach at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > was from Trenton, NJ, and the person that I knew who used "Shine it on"
> > the most was a childhood friend from StL.
> >
> > I have only heard it used by a couple of guys in Alaska - who were from
> > Buffalo (and proud of it).  It seemed to mean "to skip out or not show up
> > for" some meeting or responsibility.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 1:56 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > mainly from California.
> > >
> > > The only place that I ever heard it, before hearing it a few times on
> TV
> > in
> > > the last dekkid, was Los Angeles. But, since everybody in L.A. is from
> > > somewhere else, the first person that I heard use it - in the phrase,
> > "[He]
> > > shined my black ass on!" - was from Trenton, NJ, and the person that I
> > knew
> > > who used "Shine it on" the most was a childhood friend from StL.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 11:04 AM, Jonathan Lighter <
> > wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > The early HDAS exx. of "shine it on" are mainly from California.
> > > >
> > > > JL
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:35 AM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "(also put someone on (the) shine, shine it on, shine on someone)
> > > [euph.
> > > > > shit n. (1)]
> > > > > [1960s+] (US black) to ignore, to disdain."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm familiar with "shine someone on," in my experience, the
> original
> > > > > phrase, and the later variant, "shine it on," with the
> meaning,"don't
> > > > > bother (about it), never mind, don't give it a second thought" or,
> to
> > > > quote
> > > > > a line from the *movie* - it doesn't occur in the novel, I've been
> > > told -
> > > > > The Pawnbroker: "Cool it, baby! Don't get up tight!" The other two
> > > alsos
> > > > > I've never heard. If "[euph. shit n. (1)]" is meant to suggest an
> > > > > etymology, then it's nonsense. Don't nobody use no euphemisms in
> the
> > > > 'hood.
> > > > > Y'all motherfuckers ought to know that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Don't Shine Me On - Part 1, Part 2 - 1963
> > > > > (Frank Robinson)
> > > > > Frankie & The Del Stars
> > > > > Foremost Record Company 785
> > > > >
> > > > > The record is later than the phrase, by about a year - who can
> really
> > > > know
> > > > > when a catch-phrase originated? - and was not at all successful. I
> > > heard
> > > > it
> > > > > only once. But, its lack of success makes it rare, rarity makes it
> > > > > collectible, and so it turns up on YouTube.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVEfXVP7gGo
> > > > > Part 1
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k2fX74qqUs
> > > > > Part 2
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > -Wilson
> > > > > -----
> > > > > All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange
> complaint
> > to
> > > > > come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
> > > > > -Mark Twain
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