[Ads-l] Green's: "shine someone on (v.)"

Sat Feb 24 00:58:54 UTC 2018

Yeah, but then it would be "shine on it," which it ain't.

JL

On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 7:49 PM, Jim Parish <jparish at siue.edu> wrote:

> I always interpreted it as "(let the sun) shine on it" - i.e., leave it
> alone. But that interpretation dates back to the whippersnapper I was
> forty-some years ago, in Santa Barbara.
>
> Jim Parish
>
>
>
> On 2/23/2018 6:45 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>
>> This always seemed to me to be a very weird locution. Why "shine on"?
>>
>> JL
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 5:56 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It seemed to mean "to skip out or not show up for" some meeting or
>>>>
>>> responsibility.
>>>
>>> I can't recall whether I've heard it used that way, but that use makes
>>> perfect sense, as in, i.e.:
>>>
>>> a) Wanna go to that meeting, tonight?
>>> b) Let's shine it on.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Andy Bach <afbach at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> was from Trenton, NJ, and the person that I knew who used "Shine it on"
>>>>>
>>>> the most was a childhood friend from StL.
>>>>
>>>> I have only heard it used by a couple of guys in Alaska - who were from
>>>> Buffalo (and proud of it).  It seemed to mean "to skip out or not show
>>>> up
>>>> for" some meeting or responsibility.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 1:56 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> mainly from California.
>>>>>>
>>>>> The only place that I ever heard it, before hearing it a few times on
>>>>>
>>>> TV
>>>
>>>> in
>>>>
>>>>> the last dekkid, was Los Angeles. But, since everybody in L.A. is from
>>>>> somewhere else, the first person that I heard use it - in the phrase,
>>>>>
>>>> "[He]
>>>>
>>>>> shined my black ass on!" - was from Trenton, NJ, and the person that I
>>>>>
>>>> knew
>>>>
>>>>> who used "Shine it on" the most was a childhood friend from StL.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 11:04 AM, Jonathan Lighter <
>>>>>
>>>> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The early HDAS exx. of "shine it on" are mainly from California.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:35 AM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "(also put someone on (the) shine, shine it on, shine on someone)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> [euph.
>>>>>
>>>>>> shit n. (1)]
>>>>>>> [1960s+] (US black) to ignore, to disdain."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm familiar with "shine someone on," in my experience, the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> original
>>>
>>>> phrase, and the later variant, "shine it on," with the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> meaning,"don't
>>>
>>>> bother (about it), never mind, don't give it a second thought" or,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> to
>>>
>>>> quote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a line from the *movie* - it doesn't occur in the novel, I've been
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> told -
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Pawnbroker: "Cool it, baby! Don't get up tight!" The other two
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> alsos
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've never heard. If "[euph. shit n. (1)]" is meant to suggest an
>>>>>>> etymology, then it's nonsense. Don't nobody use no euphemisms in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>
>>>> 'hood.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Y'all motherfuckers ought to know that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't Shine Me On - Part 1, Part 2 - 1963
>>>>>>> (Frank Robinson)
>>>>>>> Frankie & The Del Stars
>>>>>>> Foremost Record Company 785
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The record is later than the phrase, by about a year - who can
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> really
>>>
>>>> know
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> when a catch-phrase originated? - and was not at all successful. I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> heard
>>>>>
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> only once. But, its lack of success makes it rare, rarity makes it
>>>>>>> collectible, and so it turns up on YouTube.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVEfXVP7gGo
>>>>>>> Part 1
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k2fX74qqUs
>>>>>>> Part 2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> -Wilson
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>> All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> complaint
>>>
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>> come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
>>>>>>> -Mark Twain
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> -Wilson
>>>>> -----
>>>>> All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint to
>>>>> come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
>>>>> -Mark Twain
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>>>>
>>>> Andy Bach,
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>>> --
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>>> come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
>>> -Mark Twain
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