[Ads-l] ADS-L Digest - 12 Jan 2018 to 13 Jan 2018 (#2018-14)

Sun Jan 14 20:48:55 UTC 2018

Don't overlook Woody Guthrie:
https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=y8FbWoSpEY7k_Ab54IqgBg&q=some+rob+you+with+a+six+gun+some+with+a+fountain+pen&oq=Some+rob+you+with+a+six+gun&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0j0i22i30k1.1572.9954.0.13554.27.21.0.6.6.0.260.2401.13j6j2.21.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.27.2481...46j0i131k1j0i46k1j0i22i10i30k1.0.OKXaqNb1ZpI

Michael J. Sheehan

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Topics of the day:

 1. ADS & Ben Zimmer get the spotlight at Oxford
  2. Some Antedatings of Sexual Terms (2)
  3. Heard on FBI Files
  4. Heard on American Greed: a proverb

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Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 12:19:31 -0200
From:    David Daniel <dad at COARSECOURSES.COM>
Subject: ADS & Ben Zimmer get the spotlight at Oxford

Fourth article down, "Executive Time." (If someone else has posted this and
I missed seeing it, sorry.)
DAD
https://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2018/01/12/weekly-word-watch-veganuary-m
outh-cooking-backwards-books/

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Date:    Sat, 13 Jan 2018 18:35:14 +0000
From:    "Shapiro, Fred" <fred.shapiro at YALE.EDU>
Subject: Some Antedatings of Sexual Terms

erotomania (OED 1874)

1852 J. B. Bucknill & D. H. Tuke _Manual of Psychological Medicine_ 212

exhibitionist (OED 1893)

1892 Hack Tuke _A Dictionary of Psychological Medicine_ 535

inversion (sexual sense) (OED 1895)

1890 Charles Mercier _Sanity and Insanity_ 154

perverted (sexual sense) (OED 1995)

1881 _Brain_ IV. 368

Fred Shapiro

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Date:    Sat, 13 Jan 2018 23:33:37 +0000
From:    Charles C Doyle <cdoyle at UGA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Some Antedatings of Sexual Terms

One never knows what an English dictionary should do with hybrid titles from early English books. But "erotomania" appears in the title of Edmund Chilmead's 1645 English translation of a book by Jacques Farrand:

_Erotomania, or, A treatise discoursing of the essence, causes, symptomes, prognosticks and cure of love or erotic melancholy_

--Charlie

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Subject: Some Antedatings of Sexual Terms

erotomania (OED 1874)

1852 J. B. Bucknill & D. H. Tuke _Manual of Psychological Medicine_ 212

exhibitionist (OED 1893)

1892 Hack Tuke _A Dictionary of Psychological Medicine_ 535

inversion (sexual sense) (OED 1895)

1890 Charles Mercier _Sanity and Insanity_ 154

perverted (sexual sense) (OED 1995)

1881 _Brain_ IV. 368

Fred Shapiro

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Date:    Sat, 13 Jan 2018 19:57:50 -0500
From:    Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Heard on FBI Files

Both  _-s'_ and _-s's_ used by the speaker in the same sentence:

"He took the screwdriver that he had found in _Charles'_ truck and used it
to kill _Charles's_ mother."

I've always thought that a person used one or the other, but not both.

Youneverknow.

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come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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Date:    Sat, 13 Jan 2018 17:15:48 -0800
From:    "James A. Landau" <JJJRLandau at NETSCAPE.COM>
Subject: Re: Heard on American Greed: a proverb

On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:30:36 Zone - 0500 the honest Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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>"You can steal more money with a ballpoint than at gunpoint."
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Related, and probably earlier than ballpoint pens, from Brecht and Weill's Der Dreigroschenoper (The Threepenny Opera)

"What is the crime of robbing a bank compared with the crime of founding one?"

I don't know when this was first translated from German into English.

- Jim Landau

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