[Ads-l] WSJ vs. Trump on "I('d)"

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Tue Jan 16 18:54:42 UTC 2018


In conversation it can be nearly impossible to hear the frequently
unreleased "d" of "I'd."

Try saying both versions of the statement aloud in a normal way.

JL

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Andy Bach <afbach at gmail.com> wrote:

> Apologies, that was meant for a different list.
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Andy Bach <afbach at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "He frequently omits modals and auxiliaries and enjoys inhabiting a kind
> > of beatific flowing present from which he may pluck ideas about the
> future
> > and experiences from the past without the bother of a grammatical change
> to
> > mark the departure of time and tense."
> >
> > from the languagelog link at the bottom - the comments are pretty good
> too
> > - though the best may be the slightly deflating:
> > He said something that we can interpret in a way that makes sense or a
> way
> > that makes no sense. Which should we choose? He's not saying he has a
> good
> > relationship with his North Korean counterpart. He's saying that under
> some
> > unspecified circumstances he could have such a relationship. That's all.
> > It's not a huge or even unlikely claim, and it may even display a glimmer
> > of goodwill.
> >
> > though his delusional sense of importance is supported by the former
> > interpretation.
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
> > Date: Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 9:41 AM
> > Subject: WSJ vs. Trump on "I('d)"
> > To: ADS-L at listserv.uga.edu
> >
> >
> > Apologies if someone has already posted to the list on this; if so, I
> > missed it.
> >
> > https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/14/us/politics/trump-wall-st
> > reet-journal-fake-news.html
> >
> > PALM BEACH, Fla. — President Trump on Sunday morning ratcheted up a
> > dispute with The Wall Street Journal, accusing the newspaper of purposely
> > misquoting him as saying in an interview that he has a good relationship
> > with the leader of North Korea.
> >
> > In two tweets from his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Fla., the
> > president applied a familiar denigrating term — “fake news” — to a
> Journal
> > report on Thursday that said Mr. Trump had boasted during an interview:
> “I
> > probably have a very good relationship with Kim Jong-un. I have
> > relationships with people. I think you people are surprised.”
> >
> > Mr. Trump insisted that he had actually started his sentence with the
> > contraction “I’d,” not “I,” which would change the meaning from a
> > surprising boast of an existing relationship into a prediction that he
> > could have a good relationship with the dictator if he wanted it.
> >
> > Mr. Trump’s attack came hours after Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White
> > House press secretary, posted on Twitter what she called the “official
> > audio showing WSJ misquoting @POTUS.” She also posted an image with the
> > words “FAKE NEWS” in a bright red banner and saying: “THE WALL STREET
> > JOURNAL. FAKE NEWS IS AT IT AGAIN. FALSELY QUOTING PRESIDENT TRUMP.”
> > ===========================
> >
> > Apparently the analysts have not yet determined the presence or absence
> of
> > the mood indicator.  When I read the Times piece, I figured Mark Liberman
> > is (or would be) on the case, and I was right.
> >
> > http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=36251
> >
> >
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