[Ads-l] creatives

[Mark Mandel]

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On Mon, Jul 23, 2018, 5:22 PM David Wilton <dave at wilton.net> wrote:

> I've heard "a police" to refer to police officers. It was quite common on
> the TV series The Wire.
>
> Also, "the talent" in the movie industry to refer to the actors. I've
> never heard that one in the singular, though. It's always a collective noun
> in my experience.
>
>
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> I thought so, but more recently (and maybe discussed on the list?) I’ve
> come across references to “a religious”.  Cf.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_(Western_Christianity).
>
> LH
>
> > On Jul 23, 2018, at 2:08 PM, Galen Buttitta <
> satorarepotenetoperarotas3 at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >
> > Isn’t that usage reserved for collectives though (e.g. “the religious
> prepare for persecution”)?
> >
> >> On Jul 23, 2018, at 12:44, Marc Sacks <msacksg at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >>
> >> "Creative" used this way sounds like an analogue to "religious" as a
> >> noun to refer to a person in a religious order.
> >>
> >> Marc Sacks
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Laurence Horn
> >> <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
> >> wrote:
> >>
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> >>>> On Jul 23, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >>>> =20
> >>>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Mark Mandel =
> >>> <mark.a.mandel at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> =20
> >>>>>> "The Garage" comprises 14 affordable studios for artists,
> >>>>>> creatives =
> >>> and
> >>>>> small businesses
> >>>>> =20
> >>>>> This is in the text describing a video at
> >>>>> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3DFg6dNWlqnrY
> >>>>> =20
> >>>>> VIDEO: Cherry Street Pier, Philly's next revitalized waterfront
> >>>>> space
> >>>>> =20
> >>>> =20
> >>>> See the OED3 entry for "creative, n." (revised June 2003). Sense 2,
> >>>> "a creative person, a person whose job involves creative work,"
> >>>> dates =
> >>> back to
> >>>> 1938, and cites from 1970 on show the more specific sense in =
> >>> advertising:
> >>>> "a person who carries out creative work on an advertising campaign,
> >>>> =
> >>> esp. a
> >>>> copywriter, art director, or designer.=E2=80=9D
> >>>
> >>> Indeed, this use of =E2=80=9Ccreative(s)=E2=80=9D immediately
> >>> conjured = up Mad Men for me.  I can=E2=80=99t remember if
> >>> that=E2=80=99s where I = first encountered it but it may have been.
> >>>> =20
> >>>> See also Arnold Z.'s 2012 post on the nouning of "creative":
> >>>> =20
> >>>> https://arnoldzwicky.org/2012/03/12/annals-of-nouning-creative/
> >>>> =20
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