[Ads-l] Antedating of "Craps" (Game)

[ADSGarson O'Toole]

Here is a slightly earlier example of craps in French in 1816.

Date: January 20, 1816
Periodical: L'Ambigu: ou Variétés Littéraires, et Politiques
Chapter: LXXVIII
Quote Page 146
Publisher: Imprimé pour Schulze et Dean, A Londres (For Schulze and
Dean, London)

https://books.google.com/books?id=CCcDAAAAYAAJ&q=craps#v=snippet&

[Begin excerpt – double-check for errors]
"Par la volonté de l'empereur la décision de Son Excellence M. Fouché
et notre assentiment, le conseil de préfecture de. . . . laissera
établir dans la bonne ville de. . . . Roulettes, Banques de Trente-un,
Passe-dix, Craps, Creps, Pharaons, Lansquenets, Biribis, et toutes
autres sages inventions de ce genre pour le délassement de nos bons
administrés;
[End excerpt]

Garson


On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 12:09 AM, ADSGarson O'Toole
<adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
> Wonderful citation, Stephen. New Orleans has a strong connection to
> France, so a French source is natural I think. It would be nice to
> have a description of the 1818 version of the craps game in French,
> but that may be difficult to obtain. The page image also lists
> "Creps".
>
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 5:38 AM, Stephen Goranson <goranson at duke.edu> wrote:
>> Here's the 1818 French original with Craps, etc.:
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>> https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=umn.31951000729960p;view=1up;seq=229
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>> Stephen
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>> Feb. 13 (Saturday), 1819
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>> Columbian Museum and Savanna Daily Gazette, p. 2, col. e
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>> ***
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>> GAMING AT PARIS
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>> The following detail on the Public Gaming Tables of Paris....
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>> ....
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>> 1 do [ditto = Tables] of Craps.
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>> ....
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>> Stephen Goranson
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>> http://people.duke.edu/~goranson/
>> Stephen Goranson's Home Page - Duke University<http://people.duke.edu/~goranson/>
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>> "Celsus of Pergamum: Locating a Critic of Early Christianity," Ch. 30 in The Archaeology of Difference: Gender, Ethnicity, Class and the "Other" in Antiquity: Studies in Honor of Eric M. Meyers (AASOR 60/61, 2007 ...
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>> Stephen Goranson's Home Page - Duke University<http://people.duke.edu/~goranson/>
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>> "Celsus of Pergamum: Locating a Critic of Early Christianity," Ch. 30 in The Archaeology of Difference: Gender, Ethnicity, Class and the "Other" in Antiquity: Studies in Honor of Eric M. Meyers (AASOR 60/61, 2007 ...
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>> craps (game) (OED 1843)
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>> 1842 _Newark_ (N.J.) _Daily Advertiser_ 6 Dec. 1/2  The common game of _craps_ in New Orleans (resembling the English "hazard") has been pronounced gambling by the conviction of a noted house on the 25th ult.
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>> Fred Shapiro
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