[Ads-l] RES: RES: Bugs Bunny coins "Nimrod"?
David Daniel
dad at COARSECOURSES.COM
Thu Oct 11 22:13:26 UTC 2018
Hey, guess what. The link below - which was working after the one sent by
Wilson was not - is not working anymore, three hours later: video
unavailable. How 'bout that? Interesting. Here's another link that's
currently working. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CXD_wJWCbU Let's see how
long that one lasts.
DAD
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De: American Dialect Society [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] Em nome de
David Daniel
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 11 de outubro de 2018 16:09
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Assunto: RES: RES: Bugs Bunny coins "Nimrod"?
Poster: David Daniel <dad at COARSECOURSES.COM>
Subject: RES: RES: Bugs Bunny coins "Nimrod"?
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I found another link on YouTube that works (well, was working 2 minutes
ago), if this is the same cartoon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D54M_fk5_0hs
DAD
Curiouser and curiouser. I watched it (well, as much as I could take) =3D
after Wilson=3DE2=3D80=3D99s message first posted (not a middle!), but now =
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it=3DE2=3D80=3D99s unavailable. =3D20
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> sender: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> Poster: Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> Subject: Re: Bugs Bunny coins "Nimrod"?
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> Wikipedia notes that this 1941 cartoon was suppressed as racist "in =3D
1968."
> (Elmer Fudd had first appeared with that name in 1940).
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> FWIW, I began watching Bugs Bunny cartoons on Channel 5 in NYC in 1957 =
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or
> '58, and this particular one was never shown - then or later. This is =3D=
the
> first time I've seen it.
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> JL
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> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 1:20 PM Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Elmer Fudd
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>> He used to be a colored fellow, before he came to his senses.
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>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3D3DP0z7oZ0jzQs
>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:11 PM Andy Bach <afbach at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> According to "Now You Know" and WikiP, Chuck Jones et alia are the =3D
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>>> coiners of the idiot version:
>>> " The word =3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3D9Cnimrod=3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3D9D is commonly=
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>> like
>>> a doofus, but the word originally meant the opposite. =3D
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> =3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3D9D originally
>>> comes from the name of a biblical Egyptian king who was widely =3D
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>> as
>>> a skilled hunter. But, according to Wikipedia
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>>> ,
>>> Bugs Bunny (yes, the iconic cartoon character) used the term
>> sarcastically
>>> in reference to hapless hunter Elmer Fudd. Viewers didn=3D3DE2=3D3D80=
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>>> sarcasm and the meaning of the term reversed. "
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>>> WikiP cites "Garner's Modern American Usage":
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>>> Though they also cite the "Dictionary of Jewish Usage"
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>>> which says it was in use as meaning "maroon" (said to be Bugs'
>>> pronunciation of "moron", not referring to Maroons, runaway slaves =3D
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>>> the Straight Dope differs:
>>> https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-25808.html
>>> )) is noted as far back as the 1930s
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>>> Andy Bach,
>>> afbach at gmail.com
>>> 608 658-1890 cell
>>> 608 261-5738 wk
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>> -Wilson
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>> All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint
>> to come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
>> -Mark Twain
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