[Ads-l] Bugs Bunny coins "Nimrod"?
Jonathan Lighter
wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Fri Oct 12 00:49:57 UTC 2018
Early this year _The X-Files_ ran an episode about exactly the phenomenon
that Larry addresses - many, many people independently sharing the same
false memory. The episode referred to it as the "Mandela Effect."
If memory serves.
JL
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 8:33 PM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
wrote:
> > On Oct 11, 2018, at 5:37 PM, David Wilton <dave at WILTON.NET> wrote:
> >
> > I updated the wordorigins.org page on "nimrod" several months ago:
> http://www.wordorigins.org/index.php/more/2195/
> >
> > It wasn't Bugs who called Elmer Fudd a nimrod, it was Daffy Duck,
> although lots of people, including me, have memories of Bugs doing so.
> (There are other instances of such false memories of movies, such as Jaws's
> girlfriend having braces in the Bond film "Moonraker." Lots of people
> distinctly remember her having them; she does not.)
> >
>
> I just had a colleague remind me of one of these false memories (or
> disputed ones involving different prints of the relevant movie, as the case
> may be) from the Wizard of Oz, and she sent along her account of the case
> in question along with some web exchanges about others. At least AFAIK
> nobody is claiming there’s an alternate print of Casablanca in which Rick
> really does demand “Play it again, Sam” or one of Star Wars in which DV
> does stentoriously announce “Luke, I am your father”. Or one in which the
> line in Treasure of the Sierra Madre really is “We don’t need no stinkin'
> badges”. There’s probably a book of these movie misquotes and false
> memories, and if there isn’t, Fred and Garson can probably co-author one.
>
> LH
>
> ===============
>
> I have the following incredibly vivid memory - goes to black and white,
> she's in the bed, wakes up, it is all a dream. As it ends - oh - maybe not
> - because peeking out from under the bed are a pair of glowing ruby red
> slippers.
> We checked it out on the web and many swear this is imagination but it
> turns out that there are quite a number of people with exactlly this
> memory. I can even draw a picture - the bed on the left of the left side
> of the screen, with the slippers poking out facing to the right. To be
> fair, some of the memories reported on line are not exactly the same -
> there are variants - but many are just this (slippers poking out from under
> the bed) or some plausibly aa slightly misremebered variant.
> Enough people have this or some variant of the memory that it's really
> hard to think it all derives from our collective Jungian subconscious. But
> others swear that there were not two versions of the movie. I am convinced
> this can't be mass hallucination.
>
> For example, from :
>
> https://www.moviemistakes.com/film1418/questions
> Question: At the very end of the movie after Dorothy says "Oh, Auntie Em,
> there's no place like home," normally, it fades out to the credits, but
> once - and only once - when I was very young, I thought I remembered seeing
> the camera pan away from her face and down to the foot of the bed where you
> see the ruby slippers tucked underneath the bed, then a fade to the
> credits. It is obviously a black-and-white shot, but there were the
> glittering shoes. Has anyone else seen this version of the ending?
>
> Macalou
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> Chosen answer: Yes. I'm sure I've seen that version. It shows that Dorothy
> didn't just dream about Oz and makes for a more satisfying conclusion. This
> version was original but edited out because it didn't follow the book's
> storyline for "Return to Oz" and the other long series of Oz books. The
> sequel pertains that she loses the slippers in transit back to her home and
> falls to the gnome king who destroys Oz which in turn causes Dorothy to
> return. So seeing the slippers at the end of the bed, while more
> satisfying, wouldn't really stay true to the Oz series.
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> I absolutely remember that version with the shoes at her bedside, but
> nobody I know remembers it.
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> Thank you! I remember that too but everyone I know thinks I'm nuts.
> 1Reply
> I remember that too - and I've asked so many people and they said no, I
> must have dreamed it. Thank you.
> Reply
> I saw that version once when I was a little kid too! I remember it
> vividly. Now I know I'm not crazy.
> Reply
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> Answer: This seems to be one of those mass examples of people remembering
> something that never happened. There are also other variations, like people
> claiming to remember the film switching to color as the shot pans down to
> her slipper-clad feet, or the slippers being in color against the
> sepia-toned B&W footage. But sadly, it seems no officially released version
> of the film has had such an ending. It's similar to how everyone thinks
> Darth Vader says "Luke, I am your father," or how everyone thinks Humphrey
> Bogart says "Play it again, Sam!", even though neither of those lines are
> real, and people are merely incorrectly remembering them. The film is so
> ingrained in pop-culture, that people think they know it forwards-and-back,
> and false memories are created.
>
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