[Ads-l] Venus symbol is for gender not sex

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Tue Dec 17 06:10:25 UTC 2019


> Procter & Gamble

Remember when P&G changed its dekkids-old corporate insigne, after some
"Chrishtans" claimed that it was a symbol of the devil?

On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 9:13 AM Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at gmail.com>
wrote:

> The pronunciation probably isn’t “wo” but the “w-word” is in use:
>
> https://debuk.wordpress.com/2019/01/03/2018-the-year-of-the-war-of-the-w-word/
> <
> https://debuk.wordpress.com/2019/01/03/2018-the-year-of-the-war-of-the-w-word/
> >
> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=w-word <
> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=w-word> (derogatory)
>
> https://medium.com/@elizabethkarleecassidy/reclaiming-the-word-woman-e39da7606730
> <
> https://medium.com/@elizabethkarleecassidy/reclaiming-the-word-woman-e39da7606730
> >
>
> https://thebrownandwhite.com/2018/03/27/edit-desk-stop-calling-women-c-word/
> <
> https://thebrownandwhite.com/2018/03/27/edit-desk-stop-calling-women-c-word/>
> ('Please don’t use the “w” word! Not every female is a woman!')
>
> Benjamin Barrett (he/his/him)
> Formerly of Seattle, WA
>
> > On 2 Nov 2019, at 17:22, Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >
> > "All that's good," as we say in the 'hood. BUT. When is the _wo-MAN,
> > wo-MEN_ problem finally going to be dealt with? On the model of "b-word,"
> > "c-word," and "n-word," I propose _w-word_, pronounced "wo-word" for ease
> > of pronunciation and as as a pun - _wo_ vs. _woe_ - on the status of
> women
> > around the world.
> > Those of a certain age may recall the Lennon-Ono composition, "W-word is
> > the N-Word of the World," from 1972.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman_Is_the_Nigger_of_the_World <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman_Is_the_Nigger_of_the_World>
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 1:50 PM Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at gmail.com
> <mailto:mail.barretts at gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> CNN reported last month that tampon brand Always will no longer have the
> >> female/Venus symbol on its package in recognition that not all tampon
> users
> >> associate with the symbol. This is an interesting development from what
> was
> >> surely a biological sex symbol to a gender symbol.
> >>
> >> 1. https://tinyurl.com/yxsw8k94 <https://tinyurl.com/yxsw8k94> <
> https://tinyurl.com/yxsw8k94 <https://tinyurl.com/yxsw8k94>>
> >> Always is taking the female symbol off its packaging to be inclusive of
> >> transgender and nonbinary customers
> >> Elizabeth Wolfe and Michelle Krupa, CNN
> >> 23 October 2019
> >>
> >> ####
> >> Always sanitary products will remove the Venus symbol, historically used
> >> to represent the female sex, from its products to be inclusive of
> >> transgender and nonbinary customers.
> >>
> >> Transgender activists and allies had publicly urged Procter & Gamble to
> >> redesign its pad wrapper without the gender symbol, a circle atop a
> cross.
> >> Among their arguments were that not all people who menstruate are women
> and
> >> that not all women menstruate.’
> >> ####
> >> ####
> >>
> >> Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_symbols#Venus <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_symbols#Venus> <
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_symbols#Venus <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_symbols#Venus>>) provides a citation
> >> that states that Linnaeus first used the copper/Venus symbol for
> biology.
> >>
> >> 2. https://tinyurl.com/y3l3dgtx <https://tinyurl.com/y3l3dgtx> <
> https://tinyurl.com/y3l3dgtx <https://tinyurl.com/y3l3dgtx>> (PDF link)
> >> The Origin of the Male and Female Symbols of Biology
> >> William T. Stearn
> >> Taxon, vol. 11, no. 4 (May 1962), p. 110
> >>
> >> I have added the planet names next to the symbols in case the symbols do
> >> not come through properly.
> >>
> >> ####
> >> Their first biological use is in the Linnaean dissertation _Plantae
> >> hybridae xxx xxx sistit J. J. Haartman_ (1751) where in discussing
> hybrid
> >> plants Linnaeus denoted the supposed female parent species by the sign ♀
> >> [Venus], the male parent by the sign ♂ [Mars], the hybrid by ☿
> [Mercury]:
> >> ‘matrem signo ♀ [Venus], patrem ♂ [Mars] & plantam hybridam ☿ [Mercury]
> >> designavero’.
> >> ####
> >> ####
>
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