[Ads-l] third place

[Andy Bach]

There is Gale Sayers autobio "I Am Third" but that's (I believe) a simple
ordering; his needs, after God and family, come third.

On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 11:11 AM Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Nice analysis. I recall a kid in elementary school who used “third leg”
> for penis, and sure enough, the UD has it (
> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Third%20Leg <
> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Third%20Leg>).
>
> The English OLD has third estate and fourth estate, but not the first and
> second estates, so it seems there was a decision that the third and fourth
> estates have adequate currency and lexicalization to warrant entry:
>
> https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/us/third_estate <
> https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/us/third_estate>
> https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/us/fourth_estate <
> https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/us/fourth_estate>
>
> Although I have known about Third Place Books for over a decade, I never
> knew the meaning until I saw that article on Schultz, and was surprised to
> see how many establishments have “third place” in their name. It seems that
> “third place” warrants entry.
>
> Benjamin Barrett
> Formerly of Seattle, WA
>
> > On 9 Feb 2019, at 09:10, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU> wrote:
> >
> > Part of a general pattern wherein a binary opposition with an excluded
> middle is presupposed or in practice, and then a third unexcluded middle is
> established as distinct from and somehow between each of the others or
> neutral with respect to their opposition. This third factor is often
> negatively or disjunctively defined rather than constituting a well-defined
> category.
> >
> > Examples:
> >
> > Neither fish nor fowl nor good red herring
> > Third world (still used, even now that the definition of the second
> world has become somewhat inchoate)
> > Third way (in political usage, drawing on liberal social views and
> conservative economic ones:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Way)
> > (Chomsky’s) third factor (in language acquisition), the first two being
> genetic endowment and experience.
> > (
> http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.174.4334&rep=rep1&type=pdf
> )
> >
> > I’m sure I’m forgetting some, and of course not all third things, even
> when the third is the last on the continuum—e.g. “third degree” (in
> interrogation or burns), “the third Reich"—fit the pattern.
> >
> > LH
> >
> >> On Feb 9, 2019, at 11:44 AM, Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Not in the English OLD, Wiktionary or Merriam-Webster.
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_place <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_place>: "In community building, the
> third place is the social surroundings separate from the two usual social
> environments of home ("first place") and the workplace ("second place").
> Examples of third places would be environments such as churches, cafes,
> clubs, public libraries, or parks.”
> >>
> >>
> https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/02/08/howard-schultz-president-starbucks-profile-2020-224823
> <
> https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/02/08/howard-schultz-president-starbucks-profile-2020-224823
> >
> >> How Howard Schultz Left a Bitter Taste in Seattle’s Mouth
> >> Eric Scigliano
> >> 8 Feb 2019
> >> Quoting Howard Schultz in reference to Starbucks cafes:
> >>
> >> ——
> >> a “gathering spot, a Third Place that draws people together.”
> >> ——
> >>
> >> Although “third place” is probably capitalized because it’s jargon, it
> could also be because of a bookstore and cafe that used to be in Seattle
> and is now nearby called Third Place Books (
> https://www.thirdplacebooks.com/lake-forest-park <
> https://www.thirdplacebooks.com/lake-forest-park>).
> >>
> >> Benjamin Barrett
> >> Formerly of Seattle, WA
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