[Ads-l] “Neutrality”

[Jonathan Lighter]

And - I love belaboring the obvious - the "n-word" is  universally
recognized as used by non-blacks to demean, degrade, reject, intimidate,
etc. Even by those who use it.

Unlike "journeyman" and "manhole."

JL

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 11:57 PM Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:

> > I think the issue for many jobs is the use of "man" presumes "it's a
> man's
> > job" and women can't do it.
>
> I don't. But, OTOH, I think that _n-word_ sucks donkey dick. "Different
> strokes..."
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 5:19 PM Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I think the issue for many jobs is the use of "man" presumes "it's a
> man's
> > job" and women can't do it.
> >
> > I can imagine women combating that presumption prefer the gender neutral
> > term to "man". I can also imagine those not having to fight the
> presumption
> > don't care as much.
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 19, 2019, 3:40 PM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > We've been through this before.
> > >
> > > Why would I care?
> > >
> > > Except that I'd have been told  to.
> > >
> > > Around 1979, about when the "neutrality" craze began, I asked the women
> > in
> > > my class how many found generic "man" to be sexist.  Only two out of
> > about
> > > a dozen. When asked, their reason was that a high-school English
> teacher
> > > had told them so.
> > >
> > > Several years later, I tried it on another class, and the objections
> were
> > > unanimous.
> > >
> > > BTW, no female journeyman will see her pay raised or find herself safer
> > > from predators by changing the word.
> > >
> > > JL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 3:12 PM Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > If you were a woman journeyman, would you appreciate being called a
> > > > “journeyman”? BB
> > > >
> > > > > On 19 Jul 2019, at 09:04, David Barnhart <dbarnhart at HIGHLANDS.COM>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Aren’t most -man/-men words neutral?
> > > >
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