[Ads-l] Adage: It is more important to know what sort of a patient has a disease than what disease a patient has

[ADSGarson O'Toole]

Great citation, Stephen. Thanks for sharing it. I added citations
dated 1846, 1894 , and 1899 to the article. Also, I updated the
conclusion.  You are acknowledged.

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Many thanks to Stephen Goranson who located the important October 1899 citation.
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https://quoteinvestigator.com/2019/07/20/patient/

Garson

On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 7:46 AM Stephen Goranson <goranson at duke.edu> wrote:
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> Here's a related text from an Oct. 2, 1899 address [and published that month in their Gazette] at St. Mary's  Hospital [London?] by H. G. Plimmer [Henry George, 1856-1918?*], p. 116ff, here 117 col. 2:
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> "....and you will find that it is quite as important for the doctor to know what kind of patient the disease has for host, as to know what sort of disease the patient has for guest."
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> https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044102978772&view=1up&seq=293
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> *If so, a biography here:
> https://kingscollections.org/catalogues/kclca/collection/p/10pl30-1
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> Stephen Goranson
> http://people.duke.edu/~goranson/
> Stephen Goranson's Home Page - Duke University<http://people.duke.edu/~goranson/>
> Stephen Goranson. goranson "at" duke "dot" edu. Jannaeus.pdf. My paper on the history of Alexander Jannaeus as the Qumran- and Essene-view "Wicked Priest" and Judah the Essene as the "Teacher of Righteousness" (3 August 2005 [revised 12 January 2006]; 34 pages), "Jannaeus, His Brother Absalom, and Judah the Essene ". Dura-Europos.pdf "7 vs. 8: The Battle Over the Holy Day at Dura-Europos"
> people.duke.edu
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> Subject: [ADS-L] Adage: It is more important to know what sort of a patient has a disease than what disease a patient has
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> Multiple requests to examine the saying in the subject line have been
> sent to me over the years. It is often ascribed to William Osler, one
> of the creators of Johns Hopkins School of Medicine.
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> The results of my searches have been unsatisfactory. The saying is
> sometimes ascribed to individuals who died in the 1800s, but the
> earliest match I've found appeared in 1902.
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> The latest request was from an Assistant Professor of Medicine at
> Harvard who had conducted his own exploration of the topic. So I
> decided to share my findings. Here is the 1902 version:
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> . . . as Moxen, wittily remarked, "It is quite as important to know
> what kind of a patient the disease has got, as to know what kind of a
> disease the patient has got."
> [End excerpt]
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> "Moxen" probably refers to Walter Moxon who died in 1886. Here is a
> link to the QI article.
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> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__quoteinvestigator.com_2019_07_20_patient_&d=DwIBaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoUadHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--8&m=HO9UkIvbtiheG2jtuZDf7a4ezUSlGEmFpu-px9jbC4k&s=OguRsEC2ycZs-vemB401mU6Nqij66x_6eLSs8JLGy5w&e=
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> Feedback welcome
> Garson
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