[Ads-l] double/triple-dog dare

[ADSGarson O'Toole]

Barry Popik has an entry with information from Dictionary of American
Regional English and various citations for variant expressions.
Barry's first citation is in 1891.

Entry from June 12, 2009
Double Dog Dare (Triple Dog Dare)
https://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/double_dog_dare_triple_dog_dare

Here is "double dog dare you" in 1889.

Date: February 22, 1889
Newspaper: The Chanute Blade
Newspaper Location: Chanute, Kansas
Article: Bob Rowley's Troubles (Chapter 7)
Author: Robert Everleigh
Quote Page 1, Column 3
Database: Newspapers.com

[Begin excerpt]
Charlie made a mark on the ground and said, "I double dog dare you to
cross that line."
Bob promptly stepped across, then stepped back and said, "Now, I dog
dare you to cross."
[End excerpt]

Escalation is a natural process. Here is "double, triple, quadruple
dare you" without the "dog" in 1901.

Date: July 14, 1901
Newspaper: The Boston Globe
Newspaper Location: Boston, Massachusetts
Article: Will They Ever Tell?
Quote Page 43 (database number; image unnumbered), Column 2
Database: Newspapers.com

[Begin excerpt]
"Heroines of old-fashioned romances kissed the men they loved when
they were asleep," remarked Pat impersonally.
"I double, triple, quadruple dare you to kiss this--this model soldier!"
"I wouldn't dream of doing such a thing!"
[End excerpt]

Garson

On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 7:01 PM Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> To my memory, triple-dog daring is before that and I didn’t see that film until the 90s or aughts but I have no actual memory of the expression being used.
>
> Here’s an earlier citation than the movie:
>
> Sketches in his own key
> 1 Oct 1981 (date verified at https://www.amazon.com/Sketches-his-own-key-John/dp/0883190583 <https://www.amazon.com/Sketches-his-own-key-John/dp/0883190583>)
> Bob St. John
>
> https://tinyurl.com/y26rte29 <https://tinyurl.com/y26rte29>
> So one time near midnight we sat on the curb under the streetlight across from Kafuman Terrace and dared, double-dog dared, and even triple-dog dared each other to run up and knock on the door.
>
> https://tinyurl.com/y683rlox <https://tinyurl.com/y683rlox>
> It wasn’t the dares, even the triple-dog dares, that finally made me agree to do it but rather …
>
> BB
>
>
> > On 30 Jun 2019, at 15:03, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >
> > Effectively could have been created by Jean Shepard, the genius behind the
> > film.
> >
> > Context suggests it was something drastic and previously unheard of, no?
> >
> > JL
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 5:38 PM Peter Reitan <pjreitan at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Triple-dog dare" famously appears in the film, The Cristmas Story, a
> >> nostalgic and comedic look at Christmas in the 1940s, shown annually on TV
> >> dozens of times between Thanksgiving and Christmas in the US, sometimes as
> >> a non-stop marathon all day on Christmas day.
> >>
> >> https://youtu.be/qeJXYhdfR6Q
> >>
> >> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf of
> >> Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> >> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 12:40:31 PM
> >> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> >> Subject: Re: double/triple-dog dare
> >>
> >> ---------------------- Information from the mail header
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> >> Sender:       American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> >> Poster:       Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> >> Subject:      Re: double/triple-dog dare
> >>
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> In my day, before inflation, it was a "double-dog dare" that could not be
> >> refused on pain of eternal humiliation. I've never heard of the triple-dog
> >> variant.
> >>
> >> JL
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 2:36 PM Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Not in the OED. I don=E2=80=99t see =E2=80=9Cdouble-dog dare=E2=80=9D in
> >> =
> >> the HDAS.
> >>>
> >>> Merriam-Webster (
> >>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/double-dog%20dare <
> >>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/double-dog%20dare>) labels
> >>> =E2=80=9Cdouble-dog dare=E2=80=9D as =E2=80=9Cchiefly South & Midland=E2=
> >> =80=9D and doesn=E2=80=99t have the triple
> >>> version. I have long been familiar with at least =E2=80=9Ctriple dog
> >> dare=
> >> =E2=80=9D and
> >>> wonder whether the label is appropriate.
> >>>
> >>> Wiktionary (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/double_dog_dare#English <
> >>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/double_dog_dare#English>) has
> >> =E2=80=9Cdou=
> >> ble dog
> >>> dare=E2=80=9D (verb cited to 1893, noun uncited) and an entry (
> >>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/triple_dog_dare <
> >>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/triple_dog_dare>) for the verb
> >> =E2=80=9Ctr=
> >> iple dog
> >>> dare=E2=80=9D without citations.
> >>>
> >>> As a nine-year-old just informed me, a triple-dog dare is a dare that
> >>> cannot be refused, a requirement confirmed by the UD:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=3DTriple%20Dog%20Dare <
> >>> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=3DTriple%20Dog%20Dare>
> >>> 1. DemonVampire180
> >>> 17 Oct 2010
> >>>
> >>> ***
> >>> It is the ultimate dare. It's for when a person rejects a regular dare,
> >>> AND a double dog dare. It is a dare that you HAVE to do under any
> >>> circumstances. If you don't do it you look like a weakling or a chicken.
> >>> I triple dog dared her to run around the house completely naked. She
> >>> chickened out and to this day we don't let her live it down.
> >>>
> >>> ####
> >>> ####
> >>>
> >>> 2. Rachael the Great
> >>> 30 Sep 2004
> >>>
> >>> ****
> >>> Note: The infamous Triple-dog-dare is infamous for the sole reason that
> >>> you cannot back down from it--without exception! An issued
> >> triple-dog-dar=
> >> e
> >>> has no counteraction and must be implemented and/or carried out.
> >>> Ever seen the movie "A Christmas Carol"? Enough said.
> >>> ####
> >>> ####
> >>>
> >>> 3. Dubiks
> >>> 7 Dec 2018
> >>>
> >>> ****
> >>> A way to get stupid people to do what ever you want.
> >>> Me: "I want you to go clean out my toilet after that massive shit I just
> >>> took."
> >>> person: "No, I'm not doing that."
> >>> Me: "I triple dog dare you."
> >>> person: "Deal!"
> >>> ####
> >>> ####
> >>>
> >>> I quickly searched for the noun and verb of =E2=80=9Ctriple dog dare=E2=
> >> =80=9D and came up
> >>> with the following two citations.
> >>>
> >>> 4. Noun:
> >>> https://tinyurl.com/y4p5l6n5 <https://tinyurl.com/y4p5l6n5>
> >>> Loving an alcoholic: help and hope for significant others
> >>> Jack Mumey
> >>> 1985
> >>>
> >>> ****
> >>> =E2=80=A6 it got to a =E2=80=9Ctriple-dog-dare you,=E2=80=9D that was
> >> _se=
> >> rious_ stuff! Anyone who
> >>> didn=E2=80=99t answer a =E2=80=9Ctriple dog dare=E2=80=9D threat couldn=
> >> =E2=80=99t expect to save face ever
> >>> again!
> >>>
> >>> ####
> >>> ####
> >>>
> >>> 5. Verb
> >>> https://tinyurl.com/yxttjdzd <https://tinyurl.com/yxttjdzd>
> >>> Rocka-Good-Bye
> >>> Molly Bass
> >>> 18 April 1990 (date the play was performed)
> >>>
> >>> ****
> >>> I didn=E2=80=99t either, but Dillon triple-dog dared me and put two
> >> doubl=
> >> e-dog
> >>> dares on top =E2=80=A6 and he gave me a dollar.
> >>>
> >>> ####
> >>> ####
>
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