[Ads-l] Taking nominations

[imwitty]

If you want to use the Spanish version of the word *UKRAINE*, then it
should be *UCRANIA. * I am sorry about ALL CAPS, but I was trying to avoid
parenthesis and quotation marks, which create some abracadabra on the ADS
list. As for *THE*, or in Spanish *LA*, it was not used in Ukraine, neither
before, nor after 1991 -- my information is FIRSTHAND.
P.S. Since I studied Spanish for 8 years -- but a while ago -- I decided to
dig out my dictionaries, including English-Spanish and Spanish-English, so
it is verified.

L.
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On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 1:51 PM Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:

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> I say, call the place "Ukrainia" or "Ukrania."
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> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:37 PM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
> wrote:
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> > > On Sep 26, 2019, at 2:14 PM, Dave Wilton <dave at WILTON.NET> wrote:
> > >
> > > I would go with "Kyiv Pro Quo."
> > >
> > > ("Quid Pro Kyiv" appeared in a Vox article, but I think my version is
> > more mellifluous.)
> >
> > Not bad at all.  Too bad the so-called Russian Pee Tapes and their
> > purported cover-up never amounted to anything; that would have posed less
> > of a challenge.
> > >
> > > I've also seen on Twitter: "Stupid Watergate II: Electric Waterloo"
> > >
> > > (John Oliver calls the Russian collusion affair "Stupid Watergate.")
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> On Behalf Of
> > Laurence Horn
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 1:44 PM
> > > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > > Subject: [ADS-L] Taking nominations
> > >
> > > From today=E2=80=99s coverage in the NYT Online (emphasis added):
> > >
> > >
> > > Other allegations from the whistle-blower:
> > >
> > >       =E2=80=A2 Attorney General William Barr and the president=E2=80=
> =99s personal
> > lawyer Rudolph Giuliani were central to the effort to compel Ukraine to
> > investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his family.
> > >       =E2=80=A2 White House officials were =E2=80=9Cdeeply disturbed
> by=
>  what had
> > transpired in the phone call=E2=80=9D because they =E2=80=9Chad
> witnessed=
>  the President
> > abuse his office for personal gain.=E2=80=9D
> > >       =E2=80=A2 Senior White House officials tried to =E2=80=9Clock
> dow=
> n=E2=80=9D records of the
> > call, especially a word-for-word transcript.
> > >
> > > Speaker Nancy Pelosi, speaking to reporters today, said the
> > administration=E2=80=99s reported efforts to conceal the call amounted
> to=
>  a
> > =E2=80=9Ccover-up.=E2=80=9D
> > >
> > > So we need an X-gate for the purported cover-up.  Ukrainegate is pretty
> > awful, and Bidengate not much better (except phonologically).  Any
> > suggestions on solving for X?
> > >
> > > (I recall way back when, there were reference to GHW Bush's
> =E2=80=9CCh=
> icken
> > Kiev=E2=80=9D speech...aha=E2=80=94here it is:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_Kiev_speech <
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_Kiev_speech>. But that=E2=80=99s
> no=
> t really
> > relevant here, except it is an exceptionally bon mot.)
> > >
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