[Ads-l] help with a literary (?) allusion
Peter Reitan
pjreitan at HOTMAIL.COM
Sun Dec 6 22:48:46 UTC 2020
The almanac must have been on sale even before January. It was quoted in a newspaper days before 1845.
The Standard (London), December 26, 1844, page 2.
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/64714906/the-standard/
Forerunner of Henny Youngman's best known one-liner?
"Take my wife . . . Please!"
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Here is a link to the pertinent 1845 issue of "Punch".
Date: January 1845
Periodical: Punch
Volume 8
Almanac for 1845
https://books.google.com/books?id=kJNEAAAAcAAJ&q=%22marry+don%27t%22#v=snippet&
[Begin excerpt]
WORTHY OF ATTENTION.
ADVICE TO PERSONS ABOUT TO MARRY,--Don't.
[End excerpt]
Here is a 1900 book that claims the quip is "one which is the best known".
Year: 1900
Title: A Peep Into "Punch"
Author: John Holt Schooling
https://books.google.com/books?id=Sz5HAQAAMAAJ&q=+%22marry%2C+Don%27t%22#v=snippet&
[Begin excerpt]
By the way, speaking of Mr. Punch's jokes which have become classic,
the one which is the best known is the following :--
Worthy OF ATTENTION.
Advice to persons about to marry--don't!
This famous mot appeared in Punch's Almanac for 1845.
[End excerpt]
Garson
On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 12:46 AM Bill Mullins <amcombill at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> I've seen in print a couple of times, when the writer wants to tell someone "Don't!", variants of "As Punch told the young man about to marry, Don't!"
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> I recently saw it suggested that "Punch" was the puppet from Punch & Judy. Now there are likely hundreds of Punch & Judy scripts, but they are fairly well-defined characters, and this doesn't seem consistent with Punch's character as I understand it.
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> I think of the phrasing as being turn of the century (19th/20th), and I've always assumed that "Punch" was the humor magazine of the era.
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> Anyone have any thoughts? Is there another "Punch" who could have said this, that I'm missing?
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