[Ads-l] Another country heard from.
Peter Reitan
pjreitan at HOTMAIL.COM
Tue Jan 14 20:46:50 UTC 2020
"Another County Heard From" appears as the title of an act by "Chace and
Davis, Ethiopian Comedians and Eccentric Song-and-Dance Artists" in an
advertisement in the New York Clipper, November 21, 1874, page 272.
According to Edward LeRoy Rice's "Monarchs of Minstrelsy" (available on
HathiTrust), Lew Davis first started performing in 1867 in an act called
Lew and Dick (Lew Davis and Richard Golden). He apparently started
performing with Chace in about 1874. Chace started performing in 1870.
Didn't quickly find any mention of their "county" show earlier than
1874, so it could have been based on something earlier - or if one of
them developed it, it is not mentioned in the few references to them I
could quickly find..
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>It's often claimed that "another county heard from" originated in the
>closely fought presidential election of 1876, e.g.:
>
>https://www.yourdictionary.com/another-county-heard-from
>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/another_county_heard_from
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>But as Grant Barrett points out on "A Way With Words," the "another county"
>version had already become a stock phrase by 1868. (Grant speculates it
>might have come from a line in a play or a joke circulating at the time.)
>
>https://www.waywordradio.org/another-country-heard-from-2/
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>Here are two 1868 examples:
>
>Green Bay (Wisc.) Weekly Gazette, Mar. 21, 1868, p. 3, col. 1
>https://www.newspapers.com/clip/42283140/another_county/
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>The Vermont Record and Farmer (Brattleboro, Vt.), Aug. 12, 1868, p. 5, col.
>1
>https://www.newspapers.com/clip/42283160/another_county/
>
>There's also "another precinct heard from" from 1871...
>
>Appleton (Wisc.) Post, Oct. 12, 1871, p. 3, col. 2
>https://www.newspapers.com/clip/42283360/another_precinct/
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>...and "another district heard from" from 1875.
>
>Times Union (Brooklyn, NY), Sep. 25, 1875, p. 4, col. 2
>https://www.newspapers.com/clip/42283479/another_district/
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>
>On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 10:13 AM Charles C Doyle <cdoyle at uga.edu> wrote:
>
>> "Another COUNTY heard from" may be a little older . . . .
>>
>> --Charlie
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>> From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf of
>> Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 9:38 AM
>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>> Subject: Another country heard from.
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>> [External Sender]
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>> This formerly well-known phrase ('That opinion or remark is impudent or
>> otherwise uncalled-for') isn't in OED.
>>
>> 1883 _Seattle Post-Intelligencer_, in _Daily Astorian_ (Dec.23) 3: Another
>> Country Heard From.
>>
>> 1904 _Macon Telegraph_ (Apr. 5) 1: "Another Country Heard From."
>>
>> 1914 _Ft. Worth Star Telegram_ (Dec. 13) 2: Election Slang...."Another
>> country heard from" originated during the Hayes-Tilden combat [1876] as a
>> result of the slow returns from contested Southern states.
>>
>> Etc., etc.
>>
>>
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