[Ads-l] money shot

[Laurence Horn]

Well, Ziplow would know.

> On Jul 28, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> Here's that 1977 cite, as found in OED3 (Sept. 2002 draft entry):
> 
> 1977  S. Ziplow _Filmmaker's Guide to Pornography_ 34  There are those who
> believe that the come shot, or, as some refer to it, the ‘money shot’, is
> the most important element in the movie.
> 
> (The earliest OED3 has for the sporting sense is from 1928, seven years
> later than JL's antedating upthread.)
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 3:03 PM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Yes.
>> 
>> JL
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 2:53 PM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I would think that the 1989 cite from the L.A. Times included in the HDAS
>>> entry (s.v. “money shot”, adj., 2) for the narrowed meaning relating to
>>> umfilms and videos of a certain character might be antedatable.  Or is
>> that
>>> the 1977 “derivative sense” you mention (but don’t illustrate below)?
>>> 
>>> LH
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 28, 2020, at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> HDAS found a derivative sense from 1977.  The basic sense seems to be
>> "a
>>>> shot (in any sense) likely or deserving of bringing in money."
>>>> 
>>>> A winning or exceptionally accurate golf shot:
>>>> 
>>>> 1921 _Evening Public Ledger_ (Phila._  (Feb. 8) 16: Miller got home
>> with a
>>>> screaming iron, the best shot of the day." ... "That is a money shot,"
>>>> explained Maxwell...."Right in the bank."
>>>> 
>>>> 1960 _Progress-Bulletin_ (Pomona, Calif.) (Jan. 10) III 1: [Caption:]
>> MONTI
>>>> "MONEY SHOT" - Eric Monti of Los Angeles rifles an iron shot out of the
>>>> rough on the first hole Saturday in the L.A. Open.  The ball
>> stopped three
>>>> feet from the cup but his putt for a birdie refused to drop.
>>>> 
>>>> 1960 _Salt Lake Tribune_ (Sept. 13) 16: Billy climaxed his
>> tremendous round
>>>> with a great eagle on No. 18. This was the money shot. It meant $2,800
>> to
>>>> the Provo pro.
>>>> 
>>>> "A chance to make much money, as in a boxing match":
>>>> 
>>>> 1940 _Cumberland [Md.] News_ (Jan. 24) 13: He never won a fight in this
>>>> country, but I got him a couple of great money shots just like he was a
>>>> winner.
>>>> 
>>>> 1960 _Press-Democrat_ (Santa Rosa, Calif.) (March 11)  13: Gonsalves
>>>> retired after a recent loss to Paolo Rossi, but announced later he was
>>>> always available for "money shots."
>>>> 
>>>> It's hard to look for because of the preponderance of "an
>> even-money shot"
>>>> (a fifty-fifty bet or chance) and "big money shot" (a chance for
>> big money).
>> 
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