[Ads-l] Antedating of "Presbyterian"

[George Thompson]

"Shakespeare's play Henry VIII, written in 1630"

Shakespeare died in 1616.  Where does this date come from?

GAT
(a recovering English major)

On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 7:02 AM Geoffrey Nathan <geoffnathan at wayne.edu>
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> Only marginally relevant, but interesting to me was the occurrence of
> the word "Lutheran" in Shakespeare's play Henry VIII, written in 1630.
> However, the OED has a cite from 100 years earlier, 1530, in a letter by
> Thomas Cromwell. It seems to have originally meant any kind of Protestant.
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> presbyterian (OED 1606)
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> 1577 in Early English Books Online
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> Fred Shapiro
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-- 
George A. Thompson
Author of A Documentary History of "The African Theatre", Northwestern
Univ. Pr., 1998.

But when aroused at the Trump of Doom / Ye shall start, bold kings, from
your lowly tomb. . .
L. H. Sigourney, "Burial of Mazeen", Poems.  Boston, 1827, p. 112

The Trump of Doom -- also known as The Dunghill Toadstool.  (Here's a
picture of his great-grandfather.)
http://www.parliament.uk/worksofart/artwork/james-gillray/an-excrescence---a-fungus-alias-a-toadstool-upon-a-dunghill/3851

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